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In this episode we break down Australia's performance against Türkiye and discuss:
⚽ Calhanoglu's pre-match comments and whether they came back to bite
⭐ Nestory Irankunda's starboy moment
🧠 Why Popovic's Australia looked incredibly well organised
🇦🇺 What this result means heading towards the World Cup
🔥 The biggest positives from the performance
For years we've asked what Australian football's ceiling is.
This performance gave us a glimpse.
👇 Is Irankunda Australia's biggest talent since Kewell?
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Good morning, good afternoon, good night. We're back. Let them shoot is back. And like I told you guys, consistency is it's coming. So we got the we got the usual, not usual, but we got the founding fathers. We got Mount Rushmore here today. Mount Rushmore.
SPEAKER_00Uh to my to my right. It's the boy MJ Borne Africa gang. Blessed to be here. World Cup. Let's go, man. Today was a good day. That's what I'm gonna say.
SPEAKER_02Today's a fucking good day, man. Today's a good day. Today's the right.
SPEAKER_03Blame Samuel, baby. Let's go. Australia. This this could be in my top five days of my life.
SPEAKER_02We'll get into it. We'll continue. Before we keep going, Samuel, does your mic have a volume thing on it? Am I speaking too loud? I don't know. It sounds like a bit.
SPEAKER_04Mine's a halfway.
SPEAKER_02But it does, it's not like a headphone volume thing, right? It's a volume thing.
SPEAKER_03It might be a headphone volume thing.
SPEAKER_02It might not be, I'm not sure. Just talk quickly. Put it down.
SPEAKER_03Hello, hello, hello.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it's whatever. Alright, cool. Uh to his right or left. On the screen, I'm gonna say to his left. Because that's what it is.
SPEAKER_04Oh, I'm top left, innit? It's your boy denied coming to you live and direct. Come on. Live and direct. Live and direct, directing in effect.
SPEAKER_02Wow. Guys, before we get started, appreciate everyone that commented last week. We got a lot of comments, to be fair. We got a lot talking about how Ronaldo. Ronaldo, Ronaldo, Ronaldo, Ronaldo. We got a lot that are happy to see MJ and Deny back. We got one guy that's not happy to see Deny back.
SPEAKER_04Some guy hates me.
SPEAKER_02Who is that guy? I swear he was comments. Where is it? I gotta find that comment. Because I was I clicked on the comments. Let me see what one comes. It had been two minutes, I swear. And this guy was saying, Oh, where is this comment, bro? I was gonna drop he said something like I was gonna drop a like until I saw Denai was in it. I was like, what the fuck? Hornet. I don't know. But they were saying Sid the Great said five minutes in MJ's on.
SPEAKER_04What's his name? What's his name? Sorry, I don't know this guy.
SPEAKER_02I don't know. I've got to find it, Denai.
SPEAKER_04What's his location? Because I want I might it might be because of a reason.
SPEAKER_02I don't know if he left his location on the comment, but um state his name is location, yeah.
SPEAKER_04And tell him who hurt him. If you're watching today, who hurt you, bro? Who hurt you?
SPEAKER_02Person who hates Denai, yeah. Maybe address address what your reasons are for not liking Denai.
SPEAKER_04Who hurt you, man?
SPEAKER_02Well, we had a lot of comments, a lot of them justifying why Ronaldo should play, some of them justifying not justifying. We had a couple Americans commenting about obviously we gave our our position on why America is a bit of a strange choice for the World Cup. But everyone pretty much agreed with us. Um perspective-wise. Even this guy said Casino said, I'm from Idaho in the States, but we got a small group of people who give a fuck about the World Cup, and the rest are wash bummed it's in the States. We don't deserve to host right now FIFA's rig, but much love.
SPEAKER_05Idaho's not a big place, though.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. And I mean, I guess for fans like that, it's kind of sick, obviously. Yeah. You know how how mad it would be if Australia had the World Cup. But yeah, I guess those guys get to experience it. But yeah, we're in. Guys, again, Samuel, tell them what they need to do.
SPEAKER_03Alright, you gotta like, share, subscribe. You gotta hype, you gotta, you gotta keep us keep us going, you know. We gotta stay consistent. You guys keep hyping us up, keep making us feel good, you know. Sometimes you need that in life. Sometimes you need people to make you feel good so that you can continue doing the things that you love. Thank you, everybody.
SPEAKER_02There you go. Guys, obviously, this episode, special episode, is an Australia vs Turkey, Turkey, sorry, review, review, post-match reactions, everything like that. Ideally, we would try and get this out maybe if we can ASAP when when we can, but it'll probably be this this kind of timing after the game. Um Mike, I want to start with you feelings post-game, post during game, post-game, before we get into to what actually happened in the game, before we get into you know, talking about tactics, talking about the shape, setup, Popovich, the players, everything like that. Feelings right now.
SPEAKER_00No, it feels incredible. Um I think whenever Australia plays, it's just I don't know, that that vibe, you know, that feeling. And I feel like it's it's more it's it's more pronounced this World Cup because we're seeing players that look like us in the starting team performing. Um yeah, it was amazing, honestly. Like watching the whole game, it's just a feeling of being proud. Um yeah, a feeling of accomplishment. Like, damn, we're really doing this because a lot of people didn't back Australia. Um, they they said Turkey's gonna finish Australia, and you know, we did what we do best, um, and yeah, it was it was amazing to see. So super happy for the boys. They yeah, incredible performance. It was it was yeah, unbelievable. Unbelievable. Do you block thoughts, shared sentiment?
SPEAKER_05Or yeah, shared sentiment, but it's kind of mad. It's mad for me because obviously I used to live in Canada, innit? So that BC place, I've actually like played there as a kid. And then my first ever game that I went to when I was moved to Australia, my first ever game I went to, international game I went to, was actually Australia versus Turkey. And like wow, yeah, it was so it's weird. And then obviously, um, I was talking to Jason, obviously guy that I played with the institute. He was in my team as well. Yeah, I know who Jason is, obviously. Jason Gary, Jason Gary, who came on right back from wing back, I think he came on, and it's like man, we used to go to training together. So it's like Jason's playing in Vancouver. I I played at our stadium, and then my first ever game watching the Socceroos was versus Turkey, so that's a bit mad, but yeah, performance-wise, I mean I wasn't I wasn't optimistic, and the opposite happened, so yeah, I'm gonna clap the boys.
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Uh full full circle. Full circle. But low-key, yeah. I think Samuel, you go first, actually. Because you want to this guy was sorry, sorry, sorry.
SPEAKER_05Can we just can Samuel go? Can we just be quiet real quick? I want to hear what Samuel has to say. Okay, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Sorry, sorry. He's not gonna do it. There's obviously something you want me to address tonight. And life has moved on a lot since that moment happened. It's been it's been I've upset a lot of things since since I said that. Denier's upset because initially when Popovich got the job, I didn't think he was the right man for the job. I didn't think he could take that squad that we had and and get something done. When really I was very wrong, because he's the perfect manager to get something done with a squad that's not good enough. And now that he has a a squad that he's built himself, he, if we're being completely honest, you look at that 2018 Australia squad, some crazy selections, no risk taking in in terms of players who who they took, who they played. Today, just in the game.
SPEAKER_00CBFC, that's pretty much what it was.
SPEAKER_03Exactly. And today in the game, he benched Jackson Irvine and Matt Ryan going into the game, which is two of Australia's biggest players, most influential over the last eight or so years. And then you get into the game, and I said it. I I was a firm believer that Australia will get out of this group just based on the fact that I don't think in this day and age, better teams are much better than worser teams. And if you have good shape and discipline, and you have players, I've been fucking saying it, players who can do something out of nothing, moments players, you can win any game, you're in any game, and the shape today, you guys can talk about it right now. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Before we go into shape, tactics, setup, everything, just stay stay with how you're you were feeling. Because this guy was this guy, I have never seen someone this nervous. I don't know why. Obviously, and during the game.
SPEAKER_03Oh this honestly, this is probably the most Australian I've ever felt. I think it it coincides a lot with the fact that there's black players in the squad, and two of our best players are black. And then so in that whole time when we were sitting, we were at the pub. This is probably the first time I ever watched Australia game at the pub. The vibes were incredible, everyone was up, they were cheering. It just uh yeah, it felt like what I imagine the people in England or Spain or whatever they are where they are watching a football country watch their watch their country play, that's how it felt for me. And so I was nervous obviously in the game, but hey, we got the job done.
SPEAKER_02And that's a yeah, that's a good point because uh especially on Twitter this week, last week, there's been like this mad discourse predominantly from British fans about how these times are like so absurd and how the World Cup times are so absurd. Like it's it's and I'm just reading it like is is this I I couldn't tell if half the the tweets were like satire or if they were like them being legit. Like how could this like as if they don't understand how time zones work? Like dude. And and for us, this is the first time, well not the first time, but in a while since 2002, I reckon. Exactly. Since where we can watch the games at a normal time, do what they do every week for prem, do what they do every World Cup, where we could watch the game at a pub, at a at a live venue, whoever you you don't have to watch it in in peak darkness in the middle of the night, you can't even be loud. Like you gotta in bed. This is like prime time, especially for Australia. Obviously, if you're in America, in Asia, it's it's it's the same. But they're experiencing this for the first time in how long did you say since 2022? Uh since 2002, so 24 years. A Qatar would have been similar, wouldn't it? No, I think they had quite good times for Qatar. I think so, but if I'm if I'm not mistaken, but they are they are complaining.
SPEAKER_05It's funny because they're complaining so much. Like, I got some friends that do this for like NBA, but MBAs obviously only care about the playoffs. Yeah. So like I've got to wake up with the playoff games, but they've been complaining. The discourse has been mad about 2 a.m., 5 a.m. Bad 3am in the morning. I'm like, that's just normal.
SPEAKER_02And it genuinely does make the vibes for for watching your team so much better. Like the energy at this at this place we're at today, this it was just a random bar in St. Kilda, but it was packed, like 20 screens. We got in there, it was full, we couldn't even move. And every time this something happens, ball goes out, you know, good tackle, good touch. When both when Geordie Boss sent that guy when he gave him one of them, and then turn, bang. Like, yeah, I feel like energy-wise, this was maybe the one of the best times I've felt watching Australia, probably since you know. Obviously, there's big moments like K Hill 2006, K Hill when he equalize against Netherlands, Asian Cup. When we were watching Asian Cup because obviously it's some of the games we're in Canberra, but this moment probably sticks out for me. Um as a fan, I reckon. Let's go into the game, and I want to start with Popper. Tony Popovich. I mean, fair share of critics. One's right here.
SPEAKER_01Nah, you know, you know what's more. There's more than what I the Samuel has to say.
SPEAKER_02I want to say MJ point directly down. Danah, you point to your left. I'm gonna stop left on my screen. Yeah, perfect, perfect, perfect.
SPEAKER_05What I want right what I want to hear from Samuel is I want to hear what he has to say about this, then I want an apology soon after on two occasions. Go.
SPEAKER_03Okay. Basically, what I have to say about Tony Popovich, when I saw that he had signed a new contract before this game, he'd or they already had re-signed him. I thought, my god, these guys, what what if we go into this tournament and we shit to bed? What if we play poorly and he and he's just signed a new contract? But they fucking believe in this guy. They believed in him for a reason because he must have the clearest identity of any Australian manager that I've seen. Because we know that Andrew Postacogli had a clear identity on the way he wanted to play. But to be honest, this that today, what I saw on the pitch, every single one of those players knew exactly where to be, exactly where they were gonna go, how they were gonna attack, how they were gonna defend, and the lineup and the setup he went with youth. That's probably our youngest ever Australian squad. Second youngest. Starting 11. Oh, yeah, starting second youngest. It's it's such a he has done just the most perfect job. And yes, definitely my bad initially, but initially, but it's been since we had qualified for the World Cup. I've been very uh honest about him because I think that he has been good for us, and I think that he's recognized that he can put some good players on up front, play some good midfielders, and then his back line is as strong as any Australian back line I've ever seen. Unit, shape, formation, lineup, everything completely perfect. He hit everything, and he was dressed like Simeone as well. He had that old black foot on, like Simeone, haram ball. So you didn't have a problem with how we played?
SPEAKER_05Me? Nah. Completely no problem. Okay, really? Yeah, really no problem. So no problem at all with how we defended, we didn't play have possession of the ball at all. Like he had no problem with that at all.
SPEAKER_02No problem. Jeremy, can you talk to your brother, please? I I'm just taking a stab in the dark that he's linking this to another team. That's what I mean.
SPEAKER_01If you want to compare the Australian team to who? To who? What was the problem when this happened in the Champions League final? I don't know what you're talking about. What was the problem happened in the Champions League final? The problem is the same way.
SPEAKER_03The problem is yeah, the problem is the best teams in the world. You had you had every problem. Yeah, and you lost. And you're one of the best teams in the world and you lost. Are you still upset about that Champions League? No, I'm just saying that we're talking about it now.
SPEAKER_05I'm just saying until you buy it now, your credibility is going down and drain because your react your reaction to this performance, people is how it's a master. It can't be. It can't be.
SPEAKER_03It was a master class. If Brazil played like that against Morocco today, would I be saying Brazil masterclass if they played the way Australia played today? No. It's context matters. It's about who who which players you have, where the squad is ranked, what what what you have at your disposal. You look at Turkey's team, they've got world-class players. Three players on the pitch for Turkey could be considered world class. And and then you look at Australia's team, and and it's a very it's a very big difference. So when you're talking about PSG and Arsenal, two of the best teams in the world, you expect more from Arsenal, in my opinion. If you don't expect more from your team, then that's fair enough, man.
SPEAKER_05I'm saying that I would expect if I was if I was an Arsenal fan, your credibility, your credibility as a as a football creator, as a football, bro, is a message.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna leave you to fight this one by yourself is a bit subjective. No, no, no, because I'm gonna be able to do that. I don't know if MJ wants to jump in with you, but I'm gonna I'm gonna keep it so many.
SPEAKER_03People were messaging me today say you should be a football analyst, but everything I called for the game happened. I said, start Erin Kunda because you know all he needs is one moment and the game can change. What happens? He gets one moment, he scores. I said we have a back three, uh a back five. We're so defensively solid, and in this World Cup, we're gonna be so defensively solid and counterattack. And what did we do? Defensively solid. Any ball that came to the fucking box, boom, Sutar out, Chicadi out, Burgess out every single time. So for me, my I said we're going through the group. They gave us eight percent chance. Eight. We've also got eight, eight percent chance they gave us. And look at us, we're already basically through the group.
SPEAKER_02Well, let's go, let's go into shape, setup, everything Popovich did because for those of you who are familiar, this is the guy who won the Asian Champions League with with an Australian team. That's probably one of the biggest footballing achievements. And the team that country was ever gonna see.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the team that he had, it was workhorses, a one or two technical players, moments players, yeah. Yeah, but very, very like it was a well-oiled machine, it was a unit, and they had no right winning that Asian Champions League going away to I think it was Al Halal at the time. Yeah, it was Al Halal. Yeah, I think it was Al Halal, and going away to do what they did there was yeah, it was was fantastic. But yeah, this performance today, I mean he went against everybody was like saw that side on 11, was like, whoa, whoa, whoa, what's going on here? Yeah, well, yeah, that's that's exactly what I thought. I was surprised to see Ocon in um starting because I watched him for Sydney FC, obviously. We he was good for Sydney, wasn't he? He was very good for Sydney, but I wasn't I wasn't expecting to see him when you've got Jackson Irvine um who's playing in Germany at St. Paul. And then I was also surprised to see that he benched the captain Maddie Ryan. Um for Beach it's Maddie Ryan, isn't it? Like it's I wasn't expecting that to happen.
SPEAKER_00We had 10 um World Cup debutants in that starting team as well. Yeah, that's what I was gonna bring up, which is insane. Sorry to cut you off, didn't I?
SPEAKER_05No, no, I just think um lineup wise, it was a surprise. Um, probably those are the two places that I thought were like the goalkeeper, the centre midfielder. And I wasn't sure if he was gonna go with Erin Kunda to start. Um and I'm happy he did. Because he's the he's the X-Factor player, he's gonna be the one that's going to cause havoc up top. He can score from distance, he's good one-on-one. Um, he's strong, dynamic, like he's gonna be the player that's gonna be that magic or that's gonna be that kind of X-Factor Australia.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And that's a that me and Samuel are having this conversation, but and and I think it's like I don't even know which side of the fence I sit. I do sit on the side of the fence where you should play your best players, but in a setup in which you're doing so much running off the ball, everyone's working so hard, even Samuel made the point. Maybe that's the reason why he shouldn't always start because you need him in if if Australia can get to games in the 60th minutes nil all, and you bring Niran Kunda, we're in any game.
SPEAKER_00And with the heat as well, I think we will have to manage when he's needed and at what point in the game, because yeah, I agree. If he starts, burns our 60 minutes and we need something. I don't want to see Volupulai the the player that we're dependent on. No disrespect, but there's just a difference in quality in terms of what they both can do, and I think yeah, he needs to be mindful of that going forward.
SPEAKER_05I just make a comment on the weather. They played a BC Place, that's an indoor stadium. Things are gonna be different when they have to go to I think they go to Sanfan and they go to Seattle next. I think Seattle. I'm not sure if that's an outdoor, I think it's an outdoor stadium, yeah. It's an outdoor stadium, so that's gonna be different. So I think the weather, yeah. Like right now, I can't really see that.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, at least we're probably best suited. Yeah, well, at least the Australian players, yeah, exactly, play through summer in the A-League. So a lot of them would have been used to doing that from. There's not many A-League players, whereas all the players in not many, but they would have played in A league. They would have played in the A-League as experience playing through heat. Whereas these European players, a lot of them never even would touch playing in in above 25, 20 degree weather.
SPEAKER_02Before Suttar even stepped out for the the start of the game, the guy was red. Imagine. How many sessions training? Sunburnt. He hasn't played all he's been injured for the majority of the season. He's he played like a couple games or less. And we'll get it, we're gonna get into the the player profiles. We'll probably do a couple match ratings, but he was incredible.
SPEAKER_00No, he was our giants at the back, brother. Yeah, it was it was unbelievable. Watching them, yeah.
SPEAKER_03It was literally like I'll be surprised if four or five of these Australian players don't get a big move after this World Cup. I reckon guaranteed, yeah. We'll go into it by all.
SPEAKER_02That's what I want to go into as well. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah. Uh another thing Samuel and I were talking about was how many teams we think will play 3-4-3 essentially in the tournament. Because it's just I feel like it's the most stable shape, and it it gives the team the most I guess the most ability to stay in games. 3-4-3, you've seen uh most bad teams that play 3-4-3, they can get something, they can get points off teams that play 4-3-3 because they're just solid, defensively solid. And and when you're playing with two wing backs, not midfielders, like they did today. Automatic width.
SPEAKER_05It was I think it depends. Two engines as well. I think it depends on the I think it depends on the whether the your two like your your front three are like natural wingers or if they're more inside forwards, if you know me. So like uh Metcalf today um worked well because he can come inside and he's comfortable inside. Yeah, you have a winger. That's what I mean. Yeah, he's a winger. So I think it depends on who those other the two behind the striker are because if they're both naturally just With players, that middle of the part gets there's a lot of space in there, and that's when the two centre midfielders might get drifty, they have to do a lot more work. Whereas if you have somebody that's more comfortable having the ball in those middle areas, I think that's where it probably works best. But yeah, it's gonna be interesting there.
SPEAKER_02It does very much rely on like you said, one having engines as the two players in the center of the park, because most of the get most of the time they're gonna be playing against three midfielders. Yeah, and unless they get a lot from O'Neil two tens, yeah.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, Aiden O'Neal today uh uh I don't know how many Ks he got through, but it would have to be 11 plus K's because he was especially in transition, and if every time Turkey attacked, they counterattacked, we we got eight, nine players behind the ball instantly. And they just they worked, I don't know how how many times you can do that. I guess it's a seven-game tournament, so you can you might be and you get a lot bigger break now. It's a week, it's a week in games, I think. Yeah, we play Friday. So there's way more recovery. I think it's way it's very suited to the way that we want to play. Facts.
SPEAKER_04Do you think that if um do you think the uh if um wait plug you in?
SPEAKER_05Do you think that if um what's his name? Juventus Boy Yieldas. Um you'll just um start it would be different. I mean when he because when he came on, he was he was lively, he was a threat. Yeah, until until they brought on Gary at it, just shore things up.
SPEAKER_02I score, clamp him up. Yeah, until they brought on, yeah, yeah. Uh yeah, I mean it would be stupid to say that he wouldn't make a difference. The guy is one of the best wingers in the world. But just how Australia looked defensively, how everybody looked on the same page, it looked like they they had been training. Like I reckon they had the way it looked is in training for a week straight, they were they were only doing without the ball shape. They were just everybody was on the same page when the when Italiano would have to go out there, the centimids across, the centre backs across, then the ball shifts, they all shift across. It was like yeah, I I think it was perfect.
SPEAKER_00You know what it felt like? It felt like Turkey, because this is what their first World Cup in since 2002.
SPEAKER_0322, right? 24 years. Yeah, 22.
SPEAKER_00What blows my mind? What yeah, 20 uh 2002, right? What blows my mind is it looked like they didn't even bother researching about Australia, how we're gonna set up the players that we have, who our threats are, because the way we scored was textbook how we're gonna score. The way we defended was textbook what we wanted them to do, and they're putting in crosses, and that striker, um Defender Bachet striker, yeah, yeah, yeah. Um, he's he's like five foot nine. Putting in we have we have to have the biggest centre back pairing in in the whole tournament, and that's that's how you're trying to score. Yeah, it's insane. If I was if I was uh uh from Turkey, and I would be blowing up that coach today. I'd be telling him go today. Because to lose like that, in the only possible way you could have lost, insane.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you saw Channeloglu's interview.
SPEAKER_03No, no, no. I was saying Channel Oglu's interview, he he was so dismissive of Australia, he said, Well, we've got better players, more talented players. He said we're only good, we're only physical and good from set pieces, but mate.
SPEAKER_02And he started off that quote as well with our coach analyzed them with us together. And I was thinking he didn't, yeah. Did you like that was what he said? Our coach analyzed them with us together, but it looked like genuinely, if you if you had to close your eyes and guess how Australia they were gonna set up, that's how they had to set up.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, the only way they were gonna score is like a worldies, yeah, because the the bars was part, the opening.
SPEAKER_02That's when I was getting nervous. You know, when the the crosses, like the ball would come in, Sutar header, Burgess header out, top of the box, Chalonoglu was at the top, Artagula was at the top, and he was going, Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05Ardig can do that. Arta Gula can do that. That's what I was thinking. There's a few free kicks that I was like, oh no, that's a stupid thing to give away. Challenge blue or artagoula.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, that new. You've seen what he does for Madrid. Yeah, absolutely. Well, yeah, selection. The only other thing we did touch on selection, but I think the the the only questionable ones was Beach, who came in faultless, faultless. Uh Heatherington, a lot of people thought were gonna start. Especially, did you guys see all these Barca links this week? Yeah, Barcelks straight away at the minute, yeah. So that was another one, and then obviously you guys said it, but Ocon starting. Yeah, instead of that one. That was probably a bit surprising, but held his own.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Also, I didn't know if um Thue was gonna start because obviously the last couple days he hasn't been training. Injury six, yeah.
SPEAKER_02But that's like a selection that picks itself. If it's fit, he he has to start.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I know he has to start, but my question mark is I feel like in this formation he's gonna be isolated a lot. Is like is he go on, say we say we're not is he not is he good enough, but is it like because obviously he's he's good when he's got an attacking midfielder behind him, like a 10 behind him, who you can kind of combine with and play off. Here we've got two wingers. So that's kind of that's always gonna be my question mark with whoever the nine's gonna be, if it's Touray or there was really no other option, really. Um but they do look more like inside forwards than you think, more than that's what I was asking. Like if we play with if we play this formation, those two I think it's dependent going forward on who those two um tens are. Yeah, fair. Fair. I think he's really dangerous in the channels. Yeah, he's in the channels.
SPEAKER_03But hold on, like yeah, I think combined good back to goal is what I'm more than. It's tough to definitely, it's definitely tough, but I think the way that we played today, he had a few opportunities where he was in the channels and he was one-on-one, and he either he lost the ball, he got tackled, won a corner, something like that. But in in in other moments, he has definitely has the quality when he gets in those positions to create something or score something.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, I just my thing is like let's make sure let's find like I don't want him to be isolated. I feel like based on the style of play, he's going to be isolated a a lot.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, 100%. He did surprise me back to goal though. Like I thought he was worse back to goal than he he ended up being in the game.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's that's my big question, Mark. Is back to goal. Can we hold the ball up a bit longer? Like to really let the team come up the pitch, really move the team up the pitch.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah, would you guys say it's fair? Because I mean I've been seeing a lot of comments um from the Turkey A fans that or it's just luck, this is that. Do you think it's do you think they have what it takes to top the group and to go for far in this competition, or do you think a game like this kind of highlights some of the weaknesses in in that side? Um, how do you guys feel?
SPEAKER_05I think it's I think it comes down to style of play, to be honest. Like you get depends on who you match up with. If you they for them to win today's game, they need to not, they were left with two options shoot from distance or cross the ball to score. The pass was parked, so like you had to really try break it down. Now, do they have technical players that can do that? Like, do you bring Artagoula in and play him as a 10 instead of on the right? Do you start you'll just like do you have the they have those two, those are their two kind of X Factor players, right? So do you then start them to and bring them in and let them rotate around and just let them have a free roll? It could they can break, they could have broken us down. So it all depends on again, one, we nullified the way they were gonna score, yeah, and then hit them on the counter and scored. But on another day, they could have started those two in more in inside, more like inside four more of a like out of glue inside, and had you just played closer to him, and those combinations could have broke us down. So I think it's a personnel thing, and it's also realizing who you're playing and how you're gonna break them down. They obviously didn't do their homework, so I don't think it's luck, I just think it's a lack of more or less respect, probably. Like you didn't really respect the opponent. You said, Oh, we're gonna beat him, cool, but you came out and the way you were gonna score isn't the way you guys have been scoring to get to the World Cup.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and that felt like one of those games where even if the game had gone on for 30 more minutes, Australia wouldn't have conceded. Right. Like it genuinely felt like that. So I don't even know if it's it's a it's a case of we were just so solid defensively that they needed like a bit of luck or something to go their way, whether it was a pen, whether it was a handball, corner, something, where they they got a break, and then when the game went back to to to a draw, we would have opened up a little bit more, and and and that's how they would have won the game.
SPEAKER_05Because as soon as we went up, raps they had two half chances, or like they had one good chance where um beach put onto the post, which I have another question to ask you guys about that. Um and then they had the shot what hit him in the like it was like kind of from the 18 yard box hit him in the chest. Um, so there's probably those they had two kind of half chances. Now, if that one that goes in off the post, if that goes in, it's a whole different story. So they did have they did have, but that was again that was a worldie. That wasn't just a uh a high percent chance, it was a worldie, so yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, I wanted to go into the players because obviously fucking a couple guys had had big, big games, and like Samuel said, we're probably predicting now at least three or four players who are getting decent sized moves at the end of this World Cup. Um I mean we can start with Iron Kunda and go down because Prem.
SPEAKER_00Prem. Yeah, he's Prem. Yeah, he's going Prem.
SPEAKER_05I mean he's been he's been a Bayern, he's been through the Bayern system. He spent what six months in the B team and then he went on loan to another German team, remember correctly? No.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, where did he go? He went to Belgium? He went somewhere else.
SPEAKER_03He went to Hoppers, grasshoppers. Yeah, grasshoppers, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05And then he and then he went to before going to England. Um I think I know the Prem talk is coming, but I think at his age like he can keep owning the championship for another season. But he's I definitely think he's Prem quality, but I think he can definitely keep like because you don't you don't want to you don't want him to go to a big team and then not be playing. You want him to be playing minutes. That's a good point. And I think if he can at Wafford he has he's slowly, gradually he came in, he wasn't starting, now he's starting, now he's become one of the star players there. If he can kind of build a name for himself in the championship, and because he's only what he's 20 years old now, is that right?
SPEAKER_02He's 20 years old, or he's younger than that. He's just turned 20.
SPEAKER_05Just turned 20? Yeah, I think another season maybe in championship and let him really own that, and then he can make that step up. Um, that's my personal opinion. That's a good point. He's definitely good for he's definitely good enough to play in the Prem, in my opinion. But it's just like, do you want him to go play in the Prem and then not play week in, week out? Whereas at Watford, he's going to play week in week out. Um for me, it's all about game. For me, for him, it's like game time, game time, game time, game time.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah. I hear you. 20 is young, absolutely. 20 is young, but it's also like what what what what what would you do you make that rational decision? Come World Cup when you've done it against the players who are the best in the world at the World Cup, internationals. Do you go back to Watford and be like, well, I've just like not no disrespect to Watford or anything, but obviously, if you've done it at the World Cup, you're thinking you're above the championship, sure, in my opinion. So I'm like, what stops you from being like, well, I can I can do it elsewhere now? Well, how do you think that works in a player's mind? Like I agree, he could do it in the championship another year, another year and a half, two years, and be like, yeah, he's clearly the best player in the championship. Get him out of there, but at the same time, he could rapidly improve if he is around better players playing week in, week out in the Prem. Like it could, I feel like it could go either way. I think his biggest struggles are Samuel. You're on. Can you guys hear Samuel? Yeah, Samuel, yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. Yep, yeah. Continue, Samuel. Sorry.
SPEAKER_03I was gonna say, I think um his biggest struggles are just playing consistently, because even for Watford is he doesn't start consistently, and when he does start, the Watford fans have been saying his performances aren't the best. They know he has bright spots and he can be a bright spark. Maybe that's the way that they play as well, because they do play very defensively, and they also weren't great this year. So I I think kind of agree with Denai in terms of him needing to find consistent minutes every week because even in the game today, 60 minutes, he did so much running, but he was gassed by like by the end of the first half, he was done, he was cooked. So he definitely needs more consistent minutes. But I think you would uh maybe even like a move to like the Bundesliga or something along those lines, playing for a for a uh a decent side there. I reckon that's probably his next his next move.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, see that's a good point because I think maybe the visibility of the Prem might not be what he needs for that next step. That might be his next step after, like you said, the Bundesliga, or even in Spain, where not you know, not not everybody watches that league, but he can have that kind of comfort to develop under a good manager in a place where he's getting week in, week out, night um game in game out 90 minutes. Yeah, I think that's probably what he needs.
SPEAKER_05Another thing to consider with this is and it's something that like I think Bundesliga to Prem that or the Bundesliga Premier League or English game has transitions quite well in terms of like speed and physicality, etc. But he's living in Watford, so north London, northwest London, um, north of London. Going to Germany, another language, culture, like the lifestyle of things, that's also something to consider. Like, is he more already? Yeah, he's probably more comfortable in England. Um yeah, yeah, for sure. So I think, and I like I wouldn't say obviously Jordan, um, what's the bosses in the Netherlands? There's a few other Germans, there's a few other players in Germany. Um, I wouldn't say go to Belgium or anything like that. Like he's got to stay in the top five leagues or top five leagues slash countries. Um, but yeah, I think I just for me to Samuel's point, I just think it's one life away from football to consider at 20 years old. Um because like for example, Jackson Nobody and all the other boys, they're a lot older, they're a lot more mature in terms of they've been around the game a lot more, their life's probably a bit slower. He's still relatively a kid. Yeah. So how let's put him in the most comfortable situation, comfortable scenario, and then yeah, game time is like the most the most important.
SPEAKER_02I feel like yeah, on his performance, it's he's as as much of an X factor as Australia's had in you guys can tell me the last it's like Roger Roger Kahill.
SPEAKER_05They're the ones, yeah. Roger Cahill, Qull. They're probably like the the ones.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, he he just he just has the the technical side and the physical side just like perfectly to match. Like he he his player profile is incredible for an attacker. He he has the perfect profile, he's lightning fast, especially for a modern game. He's lightning fast, he's strong, he's a good dribbler, he's got good feet, he likes to shoot, and he can strike a ball incredibly well. And then today, something that he's lacked probably in his career is is is a bit of composure, and he gave the keeper the eyes, buried his chance. Like, imagine being in that position, that moment, 20 years old, in the World Cup, in on goal, one-on-one. It's it's the same chance that you see so many other players missing, even in this in this exactly in this same World Cup. So many players have been missing chances, big chances it gets to you. But to him, it it was it was ready. He knew he was gonna do the K Hill celebration. So to me, that that shows already that his mindset is different because he knows, like I he thinks he's gonna bag, he thinks he's gonna score. So so to me, he's it's his it's his mindset, and the makeup of him as a player is incredible.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, and Mike Dana, you guys could probably talk about it as attackers more, but I feel like I've started to realize that good attackers have to be a bit delusional, like they have to be they have to have something like not straight into where you look at them and be like, why did you just do that? Or why have you done this? Yeah, yeah, for sure. Or what because I I think like typically midfielders are more like calculated when with their thinking, like they they they play percentages a lot more, but good attackers, like even to the the touch around before the goal, the touch to just go around him and just and just pace him. I'm like fuck. And if you're in that position gets the ball, maybe they hold it up, waiting for someone to clear roll out. You know what I mean? Yeah, but he just went nah, bang, I'm in, buried it.
SPEAKER_05One second. It's two things. One is like it's natural instinct, but it's also trusting that you've got the pace and the power to to execute what you want to do. And then obviously having the composure to the hardest thing there is the composure to actually slot it because he didn't just strike, but he didn't just places it, he side-footed that at a turtle pace into the bottom corner. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Like he typically and he typically gets in those positions and just block in. When I get in opposition, I have to smash it.
SPEAKER_03You know what I think it is? With strikers, it's I think every good footballer obviously rates themselves, and every position has like a different, there's like a different way of viewing it. So with strikers, it's like they get in in exactly like that, in those positions, and he just backs himself to do, like to dribble or to go straight to goal and and finish. Whereas like defenders, some of them just back themselves in 1v1s, like they don't want help at all. They just back themselves, and in situations where you would think like a midfielder, let's say, or a striker would not ever go into that 1v1 or into that tackle, they'll just do it. And with midfielders, it's like they'll try and turn and face forward in in positions where nobody else you just bounce it and play backwards. So I think every position has it, but you just with good footballers, they all rate themselves, and strikers are that you have to rate yourself at a delusional level. That's why Salah and all those guys can score that many goals, is because he he genuinely believes he's the best player, and it's up to him if the team is gonna win. And I think that's what makes being a striker the hardest position in in the game.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I think I think strikers you've got to normalize like audacity in the sense that if you look at a lot of the goals strikers score, when you see it, you're like, oh yeah, great finish. But when you think about it, you're like, you gotta be like low-key crazy to be like, let me try and do this in this way, and it works, you know what I mean? But I think that's just how it is. You just have to normalize doing just pivot finish or like touch, you know, near whatever. It it's just it's different, it's different, and I think that's why a lot of forwards or top forwards are different in terms of like maybe when you like who they are as people, because I think you have to be a bit different to be that good and to do things that are not normal that often.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I think audacious is probably the perfect word. Um let's go on to Geordie Boss, who's I mean I don't know, even when he when even when he makes mistakes or or he doesn't do the right thing in the moment, when you're watching him play, he already looks above the level of just composure-wise, above the level of of a lot of the players that are playing. He's class, yeah.
SPEAKER_05When he was in the A- League, I think yeah, yeah, you go to nine. When he was in the A League, he was class. I think the left back then was Alex um Gers back, and he was the the top the top guy, and boss came through and he was young, and he was just like something about left backs or left-footed left backs that are clean and slick, but they can also got the injured to bomb up and down. They just it they it just work. They're just he's class.
SPEAKER_00It's a bad and the thing that I like the most about his performance is you watch him and you know that he knows, hey, this is my tournament. This is like I I can perform, and I think we're gonna need that energy, um, especially in the latter games from him because yeah, you can just see the confidence, you can see he backs himself, he believes, he's he's jinking people, yeah, he's turning, he's driving with the ball, he's getting forward, he's taking shots. Man, this guy's different, and genuinely he's he's en route to for a pretty big move. He's the perfect profile for any team in all any system, any system, any team, he's the perfect and left foot.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. He's good in both boxes. He's good one-on-one, going past plays, he can drop the shoulder, but he can also defend quite he can also defend quite well and he has the engine and his positioning. Maybe in this game is probably not the best example because he's playing in a five and not a four. But I've like I've seen him playing fours and his position in sound. Position in sound.
SPEAKER_02I agree. And and I think, like you said, that the composure to this is more so for Australia. The composure to not like there was a couple times in the game where he got the ball facing back to his own goal, and instead of just knocking it back to the keeper and putting us under, he like gate dropped a shoulder, half turn, turn face forward and played, which meant we instead of soaking up pressure, like giving them the ball back and soaking up pressure, we were able to keep the ball for like an extra 20 seconds, 30 seconds. In the second half, especially. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, and that's a great point you said because I think what we're seeing with this team in general is the ability of players to say, hey, wait a sec, I'm not gonna just hand off the ball to this person so they lose it. I'm gonna try and get out, do something. And I think I really like that from what I'm seeing with this soccer team that maybe we haven't seen across the board like we are, but yeah, impressive. Yeah, facts.
SPEAKER_02Um, I mean Sutar, I guess everyone's impressed by his performance, but he's not a young lack player, so naturally you kind of expect more from him, but he was he was as solid as uh as a centre back performance can get in in that kind of game. Faultless. Faultless.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. Yeah, two jobs. One is to win everything aerial aerially, and he did that. And the second thing is because when you're playing like a three, he's kind of the the the cover player, the s the sweeper, so to say, if we're talking about like a three at the back. So he's like we should he should never really be beaten one-on-one. And that's he did a sound job of that.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he was the general because he's playing. I I think uh Chocati is still quite young, right? Yeah, yeah. You know, attack Geordie Boss isn't he's not uh 27, he's like 23, right? Yeah, he's yeah, yeah, mid-20s, low 27. And then uh Jacob Italiano, that's your his mid-20s as well. Like it's not a it's not a very experienced back line. So especially with Beach 22 as well, I feel like a lot of the responsibility fell on on Sutar and he was top tier for me. Any other guys that that you that you guys think um what do you say, Sam?
SPEAKER_03I just got the worst cramp just then while you guys were talking. I was trying not to die, bro. My leg is cooked. I can't I can't um not straighten it. So I'm I'm gonna be back here for a little bit right now.
SPEAKER_05Um I think Ocon Jr. ball retention, Injun ball retention, he played that he played that channel ball into Erin Kunda. I just I thought like his distribution good, he was rolling out relieving pressure where he could track him back. Obviously, I've been watching him like run the midfield for Sydney FC all season, and I I was worried that he wasn't gonna get a chance to play um or get selected for the Socceros. And obviously now he got that chance and he I wasn't gonna think he was gonna start. No, and he started and he didn't miss a beat. There wasn't Jackson November normally starts. He was as good he wasn't out of his depth at all. At all, at all. And I think obviously he's playing in the A-League right now for Sydney FC. Does he go somewhere else? I definitely can see that happening.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, it looks like it. He's also got the physique of like a big high midfielder. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, yeah, he's proper.
SPEAKER_05And he's double foot, he's he's he's left-footed, but sound on both table on both feet. Yeah, I think I think he's a good guy.
SPEAKER_02Uh yeah, I feel like those are the main standouts. Samuel spoke about Aiden O'Neill. We spoke about Beach a little bit, but Metcalf and his goal. Metcalf, great goal. And before that, I honestly I couldn't lie. I was in the first half, I was thinking this Metcalf role, I I understood it. They didn't want to play with two out and out wingers, they wanted someone who could play as an extra midfielder, which made sense. But to me, he wasn't adding anything in that first half. But in the second half, composure, even in even in moments where he could get the ball on the right side, turn, find Iron Kunda, find the switch. He looked so much better, and then obviously the goal is fucking top tier. Peak. Yeah. It was like Brett Holman's goal against fucking Serbia.
SPEAKER_05I remember him. I remember yelling, don't shoot, don't shoot.
SPEAKER_03But before Metcalf shot, I was going, don't shoot. But because I I was thinking he's just gonna slip in. I think it was Toure. Slip him in uh on the on the left side, but he shot and it was a fucking clam. Nice finish.
SPEAKER_02And even everyone that everyone that came on again to Popovich, the the substitutions were pretty much perfect. Gary came on, clamps Yildis. I don't know who Yildis thought he was gonna be playing against when he came on. He probably didn't even know who Gary is, but Gary took took that personally. Super athlete, brother. Bad. And he's he's your age, right? Denai, 32. No, he's my he's in my yeah, um Nashville's team.
SPEAKER_03It's crazy now. We both have and that's clamps. Yeah, it's crazy that us three have people that we played with in the team. You know, Jason was clamps back because he was tall. Always, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know what Jason was? Jason was a centre midfielder. Jason was a centre midfield, and then we went to Institute, and then he became my age was the top age, his age was the bottom age, and he became a centre backslash right back at AIS, and then he never left, and he's just been yeah, he's just grown and grown and grown. He struggled the first year because obviously we were we were older than him and we were quicker and more physically developed, but he's gone on to do what he's done. He's played, won A Leagues, he's had a good career, bro. Yeah, played in Japan, a couple since in Japan.
SPEAKER_03When he comes on, you can you can pack it up for whoever that winger is. If he's coming on fresh against whichever winger in the world, give him Mbappe, bro. I don't I actually don't care because he's clamps. He's putting people in just a car seat, a baby car seat. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05You know what the one thing about him is you never see him a colour boots. He's always got black boots. He means business.
SPEAKER_03He's always on business, bro.
SPEAKER_05He's always got black boots, shirt tucked in on business. He's always got black boots, man. Nah, I'm proud of Jason, dude. Proud of Jason.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, absolutely. Unbelievable. And now before we move on to preview Australia's next game, we can talk about Turkey a little bit. I mean, all dark, no horse still for this tournament. You can't back them. They're letting you down. They're letting you down. And Turkey, if imagine me as an Australia fan, how gassed I am with like the moment of brilliance or the X Factor that I think Toure and I think Iran Kunda can have in a tournament. They have Artagula, Yildiz, they got Chalonoglu, who is like a main character. He's a god. He's a he is exactly he's a god. Yilmaz, new Yilmaz, not Buddha, not Buddha Yilmaz. He's meant to be the guy. Yeah, they got players. And and imagine those pieces in a team where I'm sure all the other players play top-level Europe.
SPEAKER_05Oh no, they're all sure they were like they all play in Turkey, or they play they all play for like Fenabachi, Bashiktas, or they play like Inter Milan, Urvent.
SPEAKER_02And then you add Yildis, Gula, Real Madrid, Juventus, Inter, players on top of that. It's you have to be, like Mark said, if the Federation was watching that game, they have to they have to find the coach.
SPEAKER_05But if the work say who else they're gonna play, they're going to play USA. Tough game. It's not getting easier. That USA game's gonna be do or die. It's gonna be do or die, but they're also gonna play Paraguay. And I don't think they're gonna be charged up. I think they play better. And obviously, watching them in the European qualifiers, they play better with teams that are more open. So we are like Australia was the worst team for them to play against because they were putting crosses in and shooting from 40 yards out. If a team is more yeah, if if they play against America and America play the way they did against Paraguay, it's going to be a much more open game, and then players like um Chinanoglu and Yudis and Aragule are gonna have more space to do what they normally do.
SPEAKER_02So that's my only kind of I hear you. But America are playing that same 3-4-3 with probably better players, they could do the same thing if they were. They could do the same position. They would be better. Balogun up front. That's pretty much Motoure's final form. Yeah. You know what I mean? Like they got Pulsar. Yeah, Tyler Adams.
SPEAKER_03Tyler Adams, Tyler Adams and McKenny. McKenney did, I reckon, 25k minimum. Yeah, you guys saw Death in that game, yeah. You saw a Jacobitarian. Going forward, not Dean Death.
SPEAKER_02Chris Richards looked like fucking I can't believe he looked just like weather in the game. People have been dissing this USA team.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, back.
SPEAKER_06They were fucking good in that game.
SPEAKER_02He's a serious card. Off the ball denied they were animals. Yeah, it actually worried me how good they were. Before watching this game, I thought we're holding five. I was like, wow, we're holding five because they look dangerous.
SPEAKER_03Balogun. Yeah, that America team looked like a team that could win the World Cup. They look 20 times better than Brazil. They look way better than Brazil. And we're not able to stay on Brazil, but yeah. Fuck Brazil, bro. They were America are coached perfectly. Turkey, but I'm telling you, the way I feel about Harry Souter and how we feel, like him when he was playing, he's playing at Leicester. Imagine these guys have Demiral at the back. The guy used to play for Juve. Like for me, I'm thinking, how can you let Australia score if I'm a Turkish fan? These guys haven't touched the World Cup in 24 years. I'm thinking, how can we get step into the World Cup and lose Turkish?
SPEAKER_00In the only way they could have ever lost as well. It's the only way they could have lost. They lost that way.
SPEAKER_03The only way they could have ever lost. This is the golden generation as well. So and they're crossing balls into the box. We've got Chicardi, Burgess, and Suta in there. You're crossing balls into the box. Yeah, unbelievable.
SPEAKER_02And they yeah, they did what they can. Let's go talk about we're almost at an hour. Let's talk about the next game, which is this is the game. 5 a.m. USA. 5 a.m.
SPEAKER_03This is the one my career's riding on, bro. This is the one my career's riding on. I've been talking so much about USA. He said to layup.
SPEAKER_05But you know what, Samuel? Yeah. After you watch USA play that game against Paraguay, I know you were thinking it's gonna be a layup.
SPEAKER_03When I saw that, I was thinking layup. Because I have never seen USA, or like I've never seen a team go from looking like being just like an average or bad team to then the way that they were playing in that first game, the shape was incredible. They were moving like I promised to you, like they were they felt and they thought they were the best team in the world. That's what it felt like. And Poggettino thought they were the best team in the world because Dest and uh and Robinson out wide is like our fullbacks on crack.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_03And then and then their midfield, the those two, uh McKinney, who played like kind of the right, the right role and just let Dest have the Tillman was just dropping Tillman was doing anything he wanted, and Tyler Adams for me is everywhere is a beast. He's a beast. McKinney, Weston McKinney, he was looking like LeBron James of soccer.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I was saying Pulisic in the first half. This guy was he was taking it personally that that everyone thinks he's a joke. Yeah, yeah. So I I think this game is gonna be 50 times tougher than that than the Turkia game. Oh yeah, 100%, 100%. How America is set up, but I just it wasn't even it they impressed me how fluid they look going forward, because it was all just movement, desk movement, off the ball, Balogun movement, but defense. All of them were making runs. Pulisic was making runs in behind. That's how the goal came. Um Balogun off the ball. My god, in the channels, in the channels, in the channels. Uh whenever they established possession in their half as well, Death was gone 1v1 with the fullback, cooking him. Cooking him.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, he was he was a bit too like he was he was a bit too like yeah, yeah, too good. I've never seen him play like that.
SPEAKER_03I've never seen the play like he looks like he played for Barca for sure. That's what I mean. I was like, this guy looks like it. I was looking at this guy.
SPEAKER_02I still, I still, I still will never forget when Des signed for Barca, he like played like six games or like 12 games, and my dad was like, we got the next Danny Albers. I swear to God, he said the next Danny Albers. And you know what it reminded me of? Uh up until that game when when that guy said, LeBron, calm down. We got Ben Simmons. We got Ben Simmons. Ben Simmons, you can retire now, LeBron. We got Ben Simmons. Then that desk performance, I was like, fuck, maybe this guy wasn't lying in the first game. Maybe it was like Dembele at Barça, and then he left and he's he's good now.
SPEAKER_00Before the game, before the game, you know that Lebron meme, how he like points at the player, and but the player can't see.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_00That's what I was doing before the game. I was like, this guy's gonna cost you by now. He's he's unbelievable. He was cooking.
SPEAKER_03But but to be fair, Turkey, Turkey have they have players who have the quality, like we said, too that could have unlocked Australia's back line, but they couldn't at all in the game. So maybe we can do that same thing to these guys. And to be honest, America, their three centre backs aren't the fastest players. No, no, no.
SPEAKER_02I don't like Tim Reim respectfully. Tim Reim, Chris Reims is eight, but the third centre back, yeah. He freemanks impressed me.
SPEAKER_05Freeman? Is it a Jack? Yeah, Alex Freeman. We can look for a second, Sam. I think the difference between the US is right, what what Turkey didn't do today is they weren't making, like they weren't making runs to stretch Australia. So they weren't making runs to get to get Ocon and O'Neill out of the middle of the park. And that was the issue whereas you saw what America were doing. You saw that Tyler Adams was running into a channel, and defenders would follow him or pass him on, and then someone else drop into the same space and create that space. So I think that's a difference. You saw that with America, their movement, their movement patterns were brilliant. And um, what's the name? Paraguay haven't conceded goals all torn like throughout qualifier.
SPEAKER_03You know they're meant to be the best, one of the best defensive sides coming into the World Cup. That's what I mean. These guys are 12 games unbeaten in their qualifiers. They need to fucking head home. They're good defensively, right?
SPEAKER_05It builds off their defensive stability. So for them to for for USA to stretch that defense, and you saw all those paraguay players' point and be like, pick him up, pick him up, pick him up, pick him up. If they if USA do that to Australia, now I'm not saying they're gonna do it, it's gonna work, but if they play the same way and are able to stretch, stretch the field, a bit more dangerous, and they've obviously got a bit more quality up front, like Balogun. You he was he was at Arsenal, he killed it at Middlesbrough in the in the championship. He went to France.
SPEAKER_02Anytime he got a chance, he looked like he was gonna score. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah.
SPEAKER_05And Pulisic, as much as we pay our Pulisic, he was a chance to ACM a line. Like you don't get to those, you don't get to those clubs if you're not a good player. Yeah, he was one of the best series players over the last five years. So yeah, so we gotta like put some respect on their team. Obviously, now I don't think I was surprised that um he went with Destin like that right wing position and not um Tim Ware. I thought he was gonna start a more like a tap.
SPEAKER_00I thought he was gonna start that um leads one, um Aronson. Aronson, yeah. Brett Aronson. Normally, yeah, he normally starts too.
SPEAKER_03The shape and team was it was incredible. Yeah, perfect. Yeah, it was perfect. Pochies, he's a serious coach. He's actually a serious coach. Yeah, and and the crowd was good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the American crowds are good. The cra the crowd was the crowd was good.
SPEAKER_05Even like all the games. The crowds, the crowd wasn't as bad as I was gonna I was thinking. But I've been seeing the chance. There was only one game. Oh, the chance are terrible. I don't know. The chance I'm talking about like just the amount of people support. The US, the US, the US.
SPEAKER_02That one needs to fucking get in the bin. That chant. But I don't like when they do random cuts to random celebrities during the game. But that maybe did you see in the Brazil game, Brazil score, Vinny scores. Brady, Travis Scott, Travis Scott, golden Vinnie, Vinny, I was like that. And then strike it, Vinny, strike it. Yeah, Brady doing his fucking little handshake with the door. And he told her as well.
SPEAKER_03He's like, Yeah, yeah, quick, quick, let's do what we practice. And um, speed with you you look over, it's R9. It's it's like Roberto Carlos. Roberto Carlos, R9, and then it's speed showing them his muscles.
SPEAKER_05Did you see speed fell off the he fell off a um he was on the rail like on the balcony and he fell off and he literally fell into chairs? Like it was like a literally a meter and a half drop. There's a video on internet.
SPEAKER_03And everyone's like, what is going on?
SPEAKER_05It's what you're gonna get. You're gonna get that celebrity side of things. You know, that's what that's what America is.
SPEAKER_03I swear to God, if I hear LeBron come on the mic, I swear. I knew that I knew. I knew it was gonna be a good one. I knew I knew Iran couldn't. I knew Nestori. I you know, I seen that's my favorite team. He's like, I called him the last night.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, yeah, I knew I knew he was gonna score. When I saw him score the first one, I said he was probably gonna go for another one.
SPEAKER_05What do you guys think about the um the referees? The referees in the games that we've been talking about. How do you on top of that?
SPEAKER_02How do you feel about the VAR being able to overturn corners and yellow cards?
SPEAKER_05I think the answer to your first the the VAR corners, I think it's okay because it's instant. It's not we know you're not working around. So I don't have a problem with that. And it's okay, cool, you get the quick right answer. Um the yellow card situation.
SPEAKER_03So no, there wasn't there was one where it's it was around um America game where Tim Ream got a yellow, but then they took it away. It was like mistaken identity.
SPEAKER_05He has mistaken identity because he died.
SPEAKER_02Yes, I think as long as it's quick, but that one they had taken the corner. Yeah, then it got stopped, then it went back. It was weird, and I was like, what? I didn't even know they could do this.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, yeah, I don't know.
SPEAKER_02I don't like when it goes too far from what can happen in just in a normal game on the weekend. Like yeah, it should be somewhat replicated for what the sport like you shouldn't need all this technology to to ref the game. If it's a corner, it's a and you get given a corner, but it's not, that's that's part of it. They don't do it for throw-ins, I don't think. That's only corners. Yeah, I think I feel like they're doing too much.
SPEAKER_05I think the corner one's fine, but everything else, like I feel like the the other one is like the the eight seconds from when the arm goes down for a goal kick. Flying. I don't mind that. Um the substitute one, now they're all sprinting off. I guess it's fine. Yeah, five seconds rolling. I actually I like that. I like that yeah, I like that. Um I just think yeah, the impersonation one was a bit weird to me. Yeah, but yeah, nuts.
SPEAKER_02Fair. Let's get let's do predictions before we finish. USA, Australia, next week, this time, or I think it's Friday or Saturday. 5 a.m. It's 5 a.m. No, Saturday, 5 a.m. Saturday, Saturday 5 a.m. Yeah. What are your thoughts, feelings, quick predictions? What do we reckon?
SPEAKER_03I'm just gonna go and say that we win. We win the game in America. We smash and grab. They're not they're not ready for for the way we're about to haram Simeone stepping in there. Popovic, Diego Popovich is stepping in there with his old black suit on, and we are gonna park it. Park it for real, and then counterattack Iran Kunda. I he can get another one. He's got confidence now. Well, you're saying yeah, I'm saying 1-0. Yeah, I'm gonna say one-nil.
SPEAKER_02Alright, Samuel 1-0, Mike.
SPEAKER_00I'm gonna say 2-1. I'm gonna say 2-1 to Australia. Wow. I think they're gonna try and push for the game, obviously, naturally. Um, and I think we're gonna expose them trying to go for the game. I think so. Because I think we'll score first, and then that's gonna open it up. Wow. I'm gonna say 2-1.
SPEAKER_03And if we get a set if we get set pieces right, I'm telling you, if we get a good delivery in there, we can score off set pieces.
SPEAKER_05I'm not as optimistic based on what I watched in that first game and how USA were able to break down Paraguay, who have uh arguably one of the best defenses in South America. Yeah, um, I think it's gonna be uh a 2-1 or a 3-1 the USA way. I just think their quality and the way they move, the way they were able to move uh the defense around, I think they're gonna be able to replicate that. And we're gonna like you're gonna have to follow runners. At some point in time, you're gonna have to follow runners, and if you don't, pause again and play it over. And I think USA's technical ability in that middle of the park may be just a bit too much. Fair.
SPEAKER_02I'm gonna go one all. I feel like similar to what you guys have said, I do think we're gonna score first, but I I don't think it's gonna be the same type of performance in terms of just how rock solid we are for this second game because we've got the win already. I feel like I don't know, maybe concentration levels will drop, knowing pretty much that we're through. Not with Popper mate, not with Popper. But I'm thinking one they get back and they score second half, and then it ends one-all.
SPEAKER_03That's still a great result for Australia. Yeah, great.
SPEAKER_02As long as we don't lose. Pretty much guaranteed second if we get four points. Yeah, legit. And if if if Turkey don't beat Paraguay, long day for them. Uh guys, thank you everyone for watching. This is your Australia review. We're gonna be doing these along with the with the normal predictions and previews episodes for each round. We're gonna have some guests on as well, so stay tuned and let us know in the comments. If you have a if you have a guest or anyone you want to see on the episode, let us know. We'll see what we can do about it.