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Let Em Shoot.TV Season 1 Episode 165

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We dive into:

🚨 Crisis meetings at Arsenal, Liverpool & Chelsea — what’s actually going wrong?
🔴 Are Arsenal bottling the league AGAIN?
💰 Is Alexander Isak one of the worst transfers ever?
🔵 Should Chelsea be kicked out of the “Big 6”?

No safe opinions. No holding back.

Some of these takes might ruin friendships 👀

👇 Be honest… are Arsenal collapsing?

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Good morning, good afternoon, good night. We're back to my very very left.

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PvB in 4K.

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Keep going, keep going. To my right. Yeah, back from sabbatical. Just um just had a little month off. Just got myself right. And then just uh just in time for um refreshed. Yeah, one of the better weekends I've had in my life. With amongst friends in an arsenal pub, let's just say that. True's right.

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Blame Samuel. And uh the marathon continues. As I uh been saying this whole I guess I'm just gonna call it a season of Let Em Shoot. I've been here every single week, and I told you I'll be here until the season flipping ends.

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Till the wheels fall off.

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And I'm here. And the wheels have fallen off in in in Liverpool, but they may have also fallen off in London, in the red side of London. That parade bus, they might have to put that shit on hold. They might have to put those bottles on ice.

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Guys, if you're listening on Spotify, five stars. If you're listening on Apple Podcasts, five stars. If you're on YouTube, like this video right now. Right now, hype the video right now.

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And if you're listening audio only, Bud's just put on some glasses. Yeah, blue lighters. I've never seen him. He's in a college shirt in my life. He's in dress shoes as well. Yeah. Down there. And as you said earlier, you guys want to see. He left work at 12 pm.

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As a he's all fit. Your face is definitely not in that.

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Yeah, it's alright.

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Um he's doing the proud family guy.

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Yeah.

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Uh shoes. Thrifted. Target.

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HM. Top cot uh no. What's the other one? Uni cloak.

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Uni cloak. Yeah, nice.

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Glasses, glasses, spec savers.

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Should have gone.

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Chrome hearts.

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Top fits you nice, man.

SPEAKER_03

Thanks. This is cool. This is my corporate fit today. Yeah. Today I'm just doing Facts with Jordan. Guys, today we're doing a special episode because for the first time maybe in Let's Shoot History, we have three teams who own who all need their own crisis meetings. Yeah. This is why I'm here. We're having a simultaneous three-way three-way crisis meeting.

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Well, I really wanted to do a crisis meeting.

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Chelsea, Liverpool, Arsenal. So we're gonna start. This is how this is gonna work is there's gonna be a timer.

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Yep.

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Seven minutes.

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Oh, I played a game where there was a timer in seven minutes. Oh, yeah. It involved a closet. It involved heaven as well.

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Arsenal will be under the fucking microscope spotlight. You guys feel free to ask you any points, whatever you want to do. At the end of the time, bang, we'll go over to Chelsea. Yep. Then at the end of the time, we'll go over to Liverpool. Yeah, I mean then if we've missed anything, that's when we'll address it. We'll do it with a little squill. So a little bit of background going into today. This episode will be out. Arsenal will either be into the Champions League semi-finals to face Atletico or they'll be knocked out. Crashed out with Liverpool and Chelsea. Monumental Sunday fixture against Man City. Yeah, that's a big week.

SPEAKER_04

This would be the biggest week of your season for sure.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Arsenal just lost over the weekend to Bournemouth. Uh-huh. What a weekend that was. Compacted by a loss to Sunderland. I mean, a loss to Southampton in the FA Cup the week before. Yeah. And before international break, lost to City in the Carabao Cup final. Three some week.

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You know what it's like? Three losses, four games. Yeah.

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And uh Kai Havertz 91st minute winner against sporting. That was that was the glimmer.

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So the timer is set to seven minutes.

SPEAKER_04

Cool. Let's do it. My first thing that I want to mention is, Jeremy, are you sick of watching your team put in awful performances? Because when it gets to this time of the season, the performances aren't great, but you've been happy the whole time. A win is a win. You know when you when you scraped a couple wins, when you get those points late in game, set pieces, however it is, defend well for the game, and you scrape those points and you get them. How does it feel to watch your team play awful football? Because Arsenal were bopped around the park, in my mind. Yeah, Bournemouth. We will watch the game. Bournemouth bopped you around the park.

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You can put the picture. You can paint a picture of the game if you want.

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Bournemouth bopped you around the park. We're painting the game, painting the picture here. All of us sitting in an Arsenal pub. First time I've ever been to this pub with all the Arsenal fans, maybe six non-Arsenal fans, and it was all of us sitting there with Jeremy and Mitch. And genuinely, this is one of the greatest football watching experiences I've ever had. Because as a hate watch, top, top of the line. So my question to you is pub is packed.

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We had to go to a different level. Yeah. Because there were so many Arsenal fans in there.

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What did I say? Didn't I say Krupi was gonna score? Yeah, Krupe. Krupp said Krupi was gonna score. And he should have had a double.

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I'm gonna say this for 10 minutes. It was good.

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And before the game, what did I do? Posted a video saying these guys don't know this hate watch is about to be you know generational. So going back to my question to you, Mikhail Arteta, your manager, are you sick of watching your team play awful football when the results aren't happening? Yes. Why? Explain to us how it makes you feel. Because I feel like you always ask us how do we feel when our team's doing shit. How's Chelsea? Oh, how do you feel about your manager? Liverpool, how do you feel about Slot? How do you feel about Gakper? How do you feel about Salah? You're always talking about this, these kind of things. So how do you feel about your team? Zuber Mendy putting in one of the worst performances. Uh the players that are supposed to step up. That decline needs to be seen. The players that are supposed to step up, view the players that are supposed to have composure, Gabriel, Saliba, Raya, all on the ball. Bang average. They just kept going long. Arteta. Is this blamed on Arteta? Is it blamed on the players? What is it? Tell me. Tell me how that makes you feel.

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To preface, this the way this is gonna work is there's no deflections. You have to just answer the questions that are posed to you.

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These this is the tell them what's it called when you stop the time if you're gonna do this then.

SPEAKER_03

What's it called when the person in the court is like the I'm the defendant? Yeah, yeah. Or the scribe. We're the prosecutor. We can say like you're the prosecutor, yeah. Exactly.

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I don't know what they say in the court, but they say something where it's like they're kind of like you know, deflect, they're like just speculating or some other bullshit. Yeah, no objection. Conjecture. Yeah. No, I don't know.

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Um okay, yeah, whatever. Continue. Uh yes. Arsenal right now. I'd say for the last four weeks, disgusting. For the last two months, bang average. But the some of the football we played in the last I'm gonna say the last four games. Four months. You know, we'll go City, the Cup game, Southampton, Bournemouth. And sporting. Sporting included, yeah. Atrocious, atrocious. So am I tired of watching? Yes. Because there's no reason for us to be playing like that. I think we've gotten to the point where this season we built it off being foundationally strong, and then moments will win us games, and that was fine when we weren't conceding goals, we weren't conceding chances. There was a period where Arsenal weren't even conceding shots on target this season. And now it's gotten to the point where because we aren't creating anything, because we look stale in attack, because we look lackluster, because we lack any sort of invention, idea, creativity in the final third, there's more pressure being piled on the back four midfield two. We we're more often into a low block because we keep turning the ball over. That we look shit. So am I worried for the rest of the season? Yes. Am I most worried for the game on the weekend? More than I've ever been.

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You would never you've never been worried about going to Eddie Hans. Because I last two seasons.

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Normally I'm fine with us going there because we've been in form and we're going, all we need is a draw. But I think if we go there going for a draw, we'll lose the game. And I think we'll we'll cop a couple. And if we lose the game on the weekend, best believe all momentum goes in City's favour, and we become we yes, we're still first, but we become second favourites for the title.

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Do you think your players have the balls to go and manager to go to Eddie Had off the back of these performances that you said? You didn't even add in the bye Leverkusen first leg game where you guys were very bad as well. Do you think the players have the balls to go there in a game where right now your confidence is probably at the lowest it's been this season? City's confidence is the opposite, it's the highest it's been this season. City low-key, this is kind of crazy, not talking about City, but City have the capacity to win a uh domestic trouble this season. Yeah, off the back of a really awful season to start this season.

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They're like this bad sleeper build. You've seen them shit? Yeah, yeah. But yeah, they're nice.

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So do you think that you guys have the balls to like you said? You think if you go there to draw, you're gonna lose. But in my mind, you don't have what it takes right now to go there to win.

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Do you just before the result on the weekend, do you think you will still win the league before knowing the result? Yeah, yeah, yeah. You do still win.

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I still think we're gonna win the league. Are you saying before the city gets? Before the city gets. Yeah, yeah, yeah. I think we'll still win the league. Because I because I still don't think City, regardless of the fact that they've just shown their best form of the season winning these last three games, in between that they got bought by Madrid twice. A Madrid team that's struggling right now. And and so I don't want people to get distracted and forget easily that and pretend like this City team is one of the best teams in the world when they just got slapped by a poor Madrid team twice. They lost at home and away. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. No, so it's not like nobody can go to the Eddie Had and and win. I think but our and and they didn't dominate the game as well. Yeah. So for me, it's more so can we go be solid and turn up in moments in that game? And I think we get something out of the game. Uh a win. No, I think we can get a draw and win the league. But I'm saying if we go there playing for a draw, I think we'll lose the game.

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Yeah, yeah.

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City don't have that many hard games. I got you, Burnley, Everton, Brentford, Bournemouth, and then Villa last.

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We both have essentially the same amount of hard games. Yeah. Except we go to their ground.

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Yeah.

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And we play Newcastle at their most.

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And they have that one game in hand.

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Yeah. Um what's your team to face City? Because Zubermendi's nowhere close to what we thought he was at the start of the year. Yes, he was good at the start of the year, but he's not close. Odegaard seems like he's playing with zero confidence. Rice is potentially injured. Yeah. Saka injured. Number five. But wants you to bring back number five.

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I've been seeing so many compilations of five now.

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Yeah, five.

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He should be after the Ben White is only playing right now because Timba's injured. Timba should be the first name that walks back into the squad from the team that plays.

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Interesting as well.

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Is he available?

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Yeah. I think he's going to be available. But we're seeing like at the start of the year, everyone was saying Arsenal, best squad, death, blah blah blah. Now we're looking at these players going, yeah.

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Does that happen when you don't rotate the way that Guardiola rotates? You know how Guardiola in his best in City's best seasons, they will never play the same team back to back. Or like they'll change things up all the time. Players get played into confidence. I saw Gabriel Jesus talking about it, talking about how the worst thing about being at City and the best thing is that you could score three goals one week and then be on the bench the next week. Yeah. Because you can get played into comp into back into form, but you also, like at Arsenal Skelly, has just been rotting away on the bench. And then he's put into a game to play. Ben White rotting away, put into a game to play. And the other players, as they go through long periods where he's not playing at all, is that do you think that that's a reason for why your squad is?

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Well, addressing the squad thing, I think it can go both ways because this season, Arsenal fans mainly have spoken about how good Arsenal squad is. Other fans have spoken about how good Arsenal squad is, and now it's more like, well, maybe the squad's not that good. But I kind of look at it in the way of we've gotten to this point in the season, we've had big injuries to Gabriel during the season, Saliba during the season, Saka months, Odegaard months. Um our front three hasn't really been settled at all. And Calfiore injured all the time, and we've gotten to this point, we're in almost in the Champions League semi-finals and we're top of the league. So I feel like if we didn't have that good of a squad, at some point we would have dropped off further than we have right now. We're still top of the league by six points, regardless of the game. But in saying that, some of the players who should have stepped up more haven't. Matoweke should have done more in his the amount of minutes he's gotten because I'm sure it's more than he expected to get. Yeah, for sure.

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I tried to tell you guys.

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But when he's been bad, he's been out of game. So it goes both ways. Ben White has not been good when Timber hasn't been able to play.

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Ever since our scandal video, Ben White has not been the same.

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The only player I think who's come who's who's held themselves in a high regard is Hincapier, who's been great when California hasn't played. Rice as well. Bryce has been good. Rice starts. I'm saying for the plays that have come into the team.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah. Things have Tavert's poor as well. Things are spoken into fruition. Ben White, when I mentioned the video ages ago, you guys dusted it off. You, MJ, whoever was there, dusted it off. The one of him doing uh can I say the word?

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Balloons.

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You know, S E X in the car and got caught. Did he? Yeah, I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that. I haven't seen that either. Send it to my car. I'm pretty sure you sent it to me as well. But anyways, we've got to try him here.

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Why did he say SEX as well?

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By the way, that I said Ben White. I'll give you overtime. Average. Then I was talking about Madwake. I said, guys, it it's an exciting yeah because you know it's probably because it's you stole off Chelsea, ha ha, rah-rah. I said to you, this guy wants you to get to know him, you're gonna be like, we didn't want him. 50 mil wasted. Then I said to you guys that this Zuber Mendi thing, I don't I don't I don't understand the hype behind it. I to me I just saw him as a decent player. Yeah, you guys at the start of the season were gassing him, he's the best six already in the league. They always do this thing, Arsenal, where they gas up some player, they did it with Skelly. They gas him up, he's the best left back in the world, apparently. Then disappears. Timber disappeared. No, and now he's gonna say injuries. Timber's injured apparently now, yeah. But for three years, it's been James can't be the best because he's injured.

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Yeah, look at how many games Timber's played this year, and look at how many games fucking Reese has played. Probably the exact same. It's probably not. It's probably the exact same. Keep going.

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But either way, without that, you saw that James was better. That's why you piped down about this Timber bullshit being him being the best. Nope. On the weekend, I saw you two greatest centre backs of all time, apparently. Two greatest centre backs of all time, both make mistakes leading to goals. No, Saliba, literally, as he said, Coupier, he said, here, I'ma just lob it up for you. Perfect lob, you just volley it in.

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It was a good lob.

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Gabriel Gabriel, for no reason, no pressure, Dwordles on the ball, Dwordles, yeah. Passes it into midfield, and guess what happens? They go on the score. No, guy silent.

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I don't think you remember the game.

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I was looking at it and I was looking around at the end.

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Gabriel didn't look the same. I'm I'm not saying that. In the game, he didn't look.

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This guy had the audacity to go up front. I said he almost scored. Gabriel can't be your best attacker, by the way. I'm sorry.

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He wasn't that game.

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He's your best attacker.

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Your keeper.

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A week ago, he said Raya should be best keeper in. We had this little secret convo, me, Samuel, Jeremy. He said Raya, best keeper in the world. Why is he passing to Senesti all the time in that game?

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No, I didn't say that, by the way. He said he's gonna be the best.

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You said if we win the league, Raya is the best keeper.

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No, I didn't.

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He should be in that top top.

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He was saying that if he should be in that top in the Premier League, he's gonna be in Jeremy's conversation for top five best keepers ever in Premier history.

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Yeah.

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Fucking butt. And we're not said two. He's not even. I'm not a fucking liar. We're gonna said five.

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I'm gonna lie. Like I said, if we win the Prem, we have to go back to this. He'll be I'm gonna start putting him in conversations for him.

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This one I have to deal with.

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That's fucking diabolical. Yeah. That's one of the words to me. That's one of the words to me.

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Ryan nearly conceded as well. No, Ryan didn't do anything wrong.

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He didn't get yes, he missed every we missed almost every pass that you tried to play. You said that. You've got two games can't just be John Stoppers. That's your thing. He said ball playing! And he lost the ball playing. Is that telling him his feet? No, no, I'm saying just in general. All right, like as a big thing. What are you doing with his feet for?

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De Gea in general.

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Do you reckon it's hard to miss two six foot five attackers? Tell me what Ryder missed them every single time. He says, So let's he was just doing this now. Bring it down. You guys are reaching. I'm not reaching. This is what happened in the match.

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I'm gonna give you an extra two minutes to get off some final points.

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And Gabriel was at fault for the goal. No, he wasn't.

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Yes, he was. Okay.

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Why'd he dwaddle on the ball? We both on the ball, go quite a disagree. Made a laxadaisical pass into the midfield, intercept, go on and score. Who's the other fault with you? Just notice. I haven't deflected it.

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I haven't deflected anything. So if you've got questions, probably ask him. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It was a bit funny to joke that Mikel Arteta might get fired if he doesn't win the Premier League. If he doesn't win the Premier League, are you happy with that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think we can get a new manager.

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Okay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Okay. He did amazing to build you to where you are, but you need somebody to get you over the line.

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Yeah, where what I equate it to is if we win the league, I think there can't be a question that he gets sacked. At all. Because there is there is some talk about people saying. But I'm saying, like I've I read this whole thing, and it was basically about how if you believe that the Premier is the most competitive league in the world, blah blah blah blah blah, there's no reason for you to also think that Arteta has grounds to be sacked if they don't win. Yeah, yeah, yeah. If they win.

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Yeah, yeah, yeah.

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Because they took Simeone as an example, a guy who's won they've won two league titles. He's been manager for more than 10 years of Atletico. They've gone to two Champions League finals, still haven't won, and he's like a god.

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And he's the I think the second highest paid manager in the world.

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Yeah, and there's never a question that he should get sacked. Yeah. So, and that's in a way less competitive league. I think because they're scared to sack him. No, because it's why would you sack him?

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No, they wouldn't, because they know that wherever they go to next is not going to be as good as he's doing the best with what he's got. He's built them. I think Arteta has built Arsenal into this, and I don't think many other managers could have built Arsenal into what they are right now and the squad that they have right now and how defensively sold. He's completely transformed the idea of Arsenal.

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Yeah. But there's also a reason that all our best players keep re-signing. Yeah, yeah.

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But I think it gets to a point the same way PSG got to a point where you need a Louis Enrique to come in and be like, it's it's nice winning. For them, it's nice winning the league. Their version of winning the league is Arsenal competing for a league. Yeah. Right? Like PSG obviously are going to win the league often. They should. Yeah. But Arsenal should compete for a league. Now bring in Luis Enrique, allow them to win a Champions League. And I think Arsenal might need to get to that point where they bring in a manager who can allow them to win the big prize.

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Or if Arsenal want to do, I said a couple years ago, bring in Tooney. My next thing is if Arsenal want to win the league, they need to bring in an attacking coach, but still have Arteta there as a defensive coach. One takes one half of the team, a training goes that way, the other one takes another one. You know that's not possible. They could turn into NFL. You know that's possible.

SPEAKER_03

Defensive and offensive. Alright, guys, now your time has run out. I'll let you go over time. Arsenal's two next games, sporting city, where do Arsenal stand come filming next week?

SPEAKER_04

They're in the semi-finals of Champions League, but I think with a bad performance, and then I think they've lost to City. I think so too.

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I think if it was at the Emirates, I would think differently, but City are they on a run. So win loss. I think Yeah, win loss for me.

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Or do you think loss? Okay.

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Win loss. I reckon two draws, but you go through obviously champions. Okay. Two draws is a good thing.

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I think you go through pretty comfortably against sporting. Yeah.

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It might be a comfortable game, but I think they draw it.

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I have a feeling we draw tomorrow.

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Yeah.

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And then we draw. Yeah, I'm the same as you. Draw, draw.

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Draw draw, and here is win-loss.

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Draw draw would be a great result for you.

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But the thing is, like I think to beat City, you've got to have like some sort of like attacking presence. To beat them. Yeah.

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Yeah, yeah. Absolutely.

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Like to take you gotta like pressure these bad defense, man.

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His name's Gabriel.

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Also, my last point, sorry. I think no matter how you think he's performed this season, Arsenal look drastically different when Saka doesn't play.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I hear it. Yeah, but he hasn't been that even been that good. So you're saying they're better with him? No. Yeah, he's saying they're better with him. Even worse.

SPEAKER_03

Worse better with Saka, yeah. Way worse. Even the fact that he hasn't been good when he plays, at least there's two or three defenders that aren't there. Yeah, that space. And there's other there's more room for other players. Do you do you think Rice is gonna play tomorrow? I don't know, but I don't think we need Rice to play tomorrow to win the game. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, but if he if he's a techie quick 50 50 but between this and the weekend, he has to play on the weekend. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

If it's Zubidoo and and Norgard tomorrow, I might be able to do that.

SPEAKER_03

They'll be fine at home. Yeah. Uh where do you want to go next? Liverpool, Chelsea.

SPEAKER_04

Come to us. Because we just played this morning.

SPEAKER_03

Alright, cool. Let's get this shit out. So as we stand right now with Liverpool, they've been knocked out of the Champions League by PSG. Yeah. They won. Perfect. They won over the weekend.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, perfect. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

They won over the weekend against Fulham. No, who'd you play? Fulham? Don't give them prep. Who'd you play on the weekend? Fulham. Fulham. Fulham 2-0. But before that, they got fucking dumped out of the FA Cup, which ruined their most likely chance of winning a trophy this season. Yeah. So Liverpool for the likely, but yeah. Most likely.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah, which is 5% is still most likely.

SPEAKER_03

So Liverpool now, as we stand, cannot win a single trophy this season. I think so.

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Yeah. 450 spent?

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450 spent. 450, yeah. That is that is one of the worst money exchanges in of all time. Yeah.

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Yeah, it's bad. It's bad.

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It's deeper than that, but it's bad.

SPEAKER_03

Listen.

SPEAKER_04

I feel like every I feel like we're going to. We haven't asked your question yet. No, no, wait. We haven't asked you a question. Wait, let me just I'm just trying to preface one thing. The same way we cannot deflect, you guys have to be genuine and honest with what you're asking. Perfect.

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Then again, perfect segue. Perfect segue. This is today, this is this outfit is is purely based off Liverpool. Interesting. Thank God. These are all facts. You said be honest, yeah. I bought facts. Thank you. Cross-checked them, triple checked them. So none of you guys can be like Bajon's line today.

SPEAKER_03

And you studied analytics and accounting, didn't you? Of course.

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My nickname is Mini MJ. Way to get them glasses, that's it.

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Let me fix it.

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Works. 116 million pounds. Are you gonna tell us when to talk? Yeah, yeah. 116 million pounds. Correct? Yes or no? You have it there. Enzo, 106.8. That's a fact. Yeah, yeah, yeah. That's just a fact. Because someone over there, old name Pengus Techers, used to always criticize my guy Enzo. So why not compare Wirz and Enzo? Okay. Probably two highest builders in the Prem at the moment. Probably. Right. First stat! Game week five. Wirtz gets his first recorded stat. Do you want to know what it was?

SPEAKER_00

So he started this in the group chat earlier today. Game week five, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

It was a yellow card in the 85th minute. Oh, I thought you were gonna say his first assist or first actual stat came in game week 14. Wow. It was an assist. This is just league stats, obviously. Yeah, yeah. So we we we have a new 007, it's double 14. Double 14. Double 14. And for how many weeks was Samuel defending him? Saying this guy's the guy. He's gonna score. Don't worry, he's putting in performances. The goals and assists don't matter. Yeah. No, I didn't say that. You did. You were saying he's playing the best, he's won this many men in the matches. Was he not saying that?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, goals and assists don't really matter for the matches because he's been playing good inside. You did say you when you can see that. I didn't say that. No, they don't hold as much as well.

SPEAKER_04

This is me defending, that's me defending that he's not bad. When you guys would say that Verz played bad or Verts has been performing badly, my defense We literally said 007.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and I'm not arguing with you. We weren't saying he was a bad football player. Yeah, you are. Yeah, you were. He said he's been shit. Yeah, exactly. That's what I mean. That doesn't mean he's shit.

SPEAKER_04

And I'm disagreeing with the fact that you're saying he's been shit. That's what that's what it's coming to.

SPEAKER_02

Order in the court. Game week 18 was his first goal in the Prem. That's disgusting. That is that to me, that is disgusting. He can't go 18 game weeks with no goal. You would that mean that tells me he's probably played every team except for one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

He went 17 without a goal, but yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_02

That says 18, mate. I factured. I think he scored in 18.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

What's that? What's that thing called when they it's like a correction?

SPEAKER_01

Oh um objection? You get some court laws. Strike that. Why you do that?

SPEAKER_02

The four goals he scored in the Prem against them. What teams? Wolves?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, bad teams.

SPEAKER_02

Fulham, Spurs, Newcastle.

SPEAKER_00

They're his four goals in the Prem. One of them's in the traditional Big Six, but one of them's in the traditionally good teams at Newcastle. So Tottenham's a traditional Big Six, or they're not? Traditional. Are they? You say traditional. Traditional, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's the question. Yes, I mean.

SPEAKER_00

That's what they're considered as.

SPEAKER_02

You know him and AKTK against the traditional Big Six. They both have one goal contribution. And it was against the same game, in the same game against the Spurs. Wow. One goal, one goal and one goal and assist. And it was to each other against Spurs, who are literally in the relegation by the way.

SPEAKER_03

That's incredible. I didn't know that.

SPEAKER_02

And West has one assist, and it was they played the ball to each other for that.

SPEAKER_03

Objection sustained.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, that's a good one.

SPEAKER_02

You guys had everything you wanted at the start of the season. Yep. You were not everything. We had the world's best center back, our league's best center back, league's best keeper, league's second best striker, probably best player of the year.

SPEAKER_04

Player of the year. So this is not asking us any questions.

SPEAKER_03

We're gonna get to the questions. There's still a lot of time.

SPEAKER_02

League's best everything. And the coach just came off winning the Premier. So he can't be the worst.

SPEAKER_03

No, no way. He can't. Because I remember a period last year where Samuel said, Is slot better than Claw? Yep. I remember that. Did you forget that? That you said that? No, but I can tell you what I said. It's not a question. Okay, so then it's not a question.

SPEAKER_01

Still zero question.

SPEAKER_02

So you guys speculating. You guys had everything you wanted going into the start of the prem. We even did a prediction and we said, top two, one. Some of you guys said one, two. Yeah. Mind you, I said not top four, by the way. You did say. And everyone said I was crazy. Everyone said I was foxy crazy, but I said outside top four. Everyone looked at me like that. MJ said, Where'd you have Chelsea? In my what? Your prediction. I think he had five. I had him fifth. No, he didn't. We'll look at it back. We'll look at it back. Today it's not about Chelsea right now. We can talk about that later. But you had everything you wanted going into the Prem. Why are you four points in front of Chelsea at the moment in fifth?

SPEAKER_03

That's a weird way to phrase that question. Why are you 18 points off the top? Let's say.

SPEAKER_04

That's the question. Why are we 18 points off the top? Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Wait. Okay. We've heard the slot.

SPEAKER_02

Let's actually talk about the other parts.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you're good, man.

SPEAKER_02

Let's not talk about slot.

SPEAKER_03

Let's talk about actual something that's going to answer the question. Tom, why are you 18 points off the top? There's a lot of different factors.

SPEAKER_01

I think that obviously we now know that the recruitment was wrong. We needed to we should have just got gay here at the fucking at the start of the year. I think we went we we who in particular was the most wrong in the recruitment?

SPEAKER_04

In terms of signings?

SPEAKER_01

In terms of signings. I don't think any of the signings were bad signings. Maybe the price tag and the the way that they were done, especially with the Isaac deal, were were incorrect. But the signings were good signings. Everyone said, Oh my god, we're signing superstars. Liverpool never signed superstars. Look at all these players that they've signed. We just didn't reinforce the areas that we needed to reinforce at the start of the year. And we we got too excited with signing all these very good attacking players, which we now know has come to bite us in the arse. It doesn't help that Issaq breaks his leg. It doesn't help that Isaac doesn't play for two months at the start of the year. Kirk is terrible at the start of the year. A lot of the players at the start of the year were underperforming, and that set the precedent for basically the majority of the year.

SPEAKER_04

I I think it's harsh to just focus on the signings because it it gives the other players who are performing so horribly at the start of the season, it lets them off the hook. Because if your players new signings, if your new signings, yeah, I will. If your new signings coming into a team and the players that are supposed to be the mainstage, the the key figures in the team aren't performing well, it's hard for a new signing to come in and just be the guy straight away. Usually you have the other players there who have been there who help you uh into the team and then they perform well and you perform well. So, one, it doesn't help that uh Konate, who was excellent last season, one of the best defenders in the league last season, he was key in Liverpool winning the league last season. His partnership with Van Dyke, both of them have been Van Dyke to start the season wasn't bad. So it's more his drop-off has come more gradually, yeah. Gradually, but at this in the start of the season, in the start of the season, Graven Birch, who was key last year, ever first five games, he he was performing well. After that, dropped off a cliff. McAllister is probably for me the biggest one because he he's quite midfielders in the league. He's gone from being pivotal in our team. You would never ever last season ever start a game without McAllister, to now defensively he's a cone. I was saying it today, he's a he's a cone.

SPEAKER_03

Him shaving his head as well makes me think he's he's lost all hope. Nah, he's a cone. It's a bad trip.

SPEAKER_04

Defensively, he's a cone, but my biggest issue isn't even defensively what he's doing. It's on the ball. I think he loses the ball when I'm watching more than any other midfielder, which is absolutely crazy based on how good his technical ability was last season. Yeah. Because I know I'm not watching it. It's it's if you thought, like if you watch them side by side, it's two different players. His him last year and pitch at all. At all. No, and I think that affects the whole team and then affects him when he gets on the ball. Maybe he's too tired. I don't know. Yep. And then uh then you look at Sala. Salah last season, people can say genuinely he single-handedly won Liverpool a Premier League, doing what he did last season. It's fair to say that. With 40 or almost 50 goal contributions, Salah dropped off a cliff. Yep. And then that's been coming, but but you can say it. Yeah, we saw it at the end of last season. Yeah, you can you can say it, but it's it's like you still expect him to come in and not be the way he was this season. Yeah, in my mind.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, he's astronomically. Well worse. He could not keep the ball.

SPEAKER_02

He has the highest GA in the team.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I know. Yeah, he would. It would make sense.

SPEAKER_02

He has 20 something. I checked it.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, he has 20 something. Yeah, it is, it is. Performance-wise, it's still the exact same. We're getting the numbers. We're getting the numbers. I wasn't aware of that. But yeah, so the Allison as well. Always injured. In and out of the team. There's key players this season. Our spine was meant to be out, one of our strongest things. So then when you add verts into it and he himself isn't performing to the way he should be, but when the team isn't performing, then we become way more reliant on a player who's still trying to get a climatize, acclimatised to the league. Because physically he's not ready to play in the Premier League, which is you can say bad recruitment for from Liverpool or bad.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, it's awful recruitment from Liverpool. I don't think at the start of the year, I want to reiterate that I said if you go and sign Isak after signing Ekatique, it's it's one of the worst use of funds I've ever seen. 100% in my life. And you were saying to me that it cannot be bad. You were saying it cannot be bad if we have both of them. It's gone to show you that it is the worst use of finger.

SPEAKER_04

It's bad because we didn't sign what we needed. That's why it's bad.

SPEAKER_03

You need a left winger, you need a right winger, which is shown this season.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, a right winger is it's shown this season, but at the start of last season we didn't need a right winger.

SPEAKER_03

Well, regardless, Salah was contract was gonna run out. Yeah. You thought he was only gonna do one year anyway. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So whether you thought you were getting big money for him, realistically, I think. No, no, I didn't. So what were you gonna do?

SPEAKER_04

I thought he would have a nice little farewell, have a good season, end the season, and then he'll be gone. And and that's what I thought it would be, but not everything works out that way.

SPEAKER_03

And now slots come out saying in the summer, we need to we need to sell to buy.

SPEAKER_00

That is bad. Yeah, that's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

You need a world-class left winger, right winger.

SPEAKER_04

He didn't he didn't say but what what was said It's implied. What was said was basically he said that as you all know, Liverpool is a club that needs to sell to buy, is basically what he was saying. I don't I'm not somebody who agrees with Slot at the moment because he's been pissing me off a lot. And um can't be more than Van Dyke, mate.

SPEAKER_02

What can't be pissing you off more than Van Dyke. Oh, he is a lot more. Four penalties in one season is pretty crazy. Yeah, I agree that four penalties is a lot of something. Yeah, can't say the other one.

SPEAKER_04

When you when you talk about players not being able like today, again, Isaac, he played the first 45 minutes.

SPEAKER_01

Barely. He didn't look the ball.

SPEAKER_04

He didn't look like he was physically out of it. Like he looked sharper than he looked at the start of the season, he looked stronger than he looked at the start of the season, but he could not get a touch of the ball. And to me, that has to it has to be purely based off the way that the team is playing. If you can't get the best out of a player who at Newcastle they were getting the best out of him for years, he looked incredible at Newcastle. He signed a different player, mate. But be honest, that's what I'm saying. I'm honest. What do you mean we signed a different player? We didn't sign a different player. We signed that player good all year.

SPEAKER_03

Even when other players were looking good, even when Ikatike is shining in the same system, how can Isak look so bad in the same system? Okay, first. And they're such similar players. You said regen of the player.

SPEAKER_04

Firstly, Isaac's issues come from obviously the no preseason late into the team. That can't be an excuse, bro. No preseason. It can be an excuse for a morse. Yeah, that's what I'm saying. But then after that, what's it? But you guys know as a player, if you put together a month where you don't feel good, you're not performing well, you know it's hard to get into playing well and performing well. Yet Isaac still scored, I think it was like six.

SPEAKER_03

I've seen Steve drink every day and come and score four.

SPEAKER_04

I think it was like I think it was like he scored six six goals in ten starts or something to that in the first half of the season. It was he wasn't performing well and he wasn't playing that. None of them were back, it was one prem goal. But I didn't say that. When did I say that? No, I'm just giving you the framing of it. Yeah. Yeah. I'm saying that if he started 10 games, I'm pretty sure it was six goals in ten games. I remember seeing the stat. In every in all comps. Yeah, in all comps.

SPEAKER_02

I'm just making sure you get that.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, well, we count all comps when you talked about Salah has been. Okay, we'll just prep a certain way. But then you do the same. When you said Salah has our most GA, you didn't say in all comps. He's got the most GAM. No, no, it's in in the Prem. No, Ekitk has more.

SPEAKER_02

GA. Yes. Goals and Mm.

SPEAKER_04

Ak has more in the Prem.

SPEAKER_02

No, he doesn't.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, he does. Okay. Yeah, we'll have to fact check that.

SPEAKER_02

But keep going.

SPEAKER_03

Continue.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. I'm saying so there's there's reasons, there's reasons for Isak's for Isaac being the way he was. Did we think he would perform that way? No, because you just you view these players as if you're one of the best players in the world, you view them as they can just at any time. I could take it.

SPEAKER_03

Objection sustained about Akateco.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. When you view these players as one of the best players in the world, you just expect them to come in, the same as Verts, you just expect them to come in and just be able to perform straight away. And so when he didn't come in and perform straight away, there's obviously reasons, and you you're lying if you if you're saying there's not reasons. Yeah, but then he comes in and he doesn't touch the ball. And that's that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01

The coaching How can you build any sort of confidence when you're you're playing with one of the best players in the world and he touches the ball? He's getting not even a shot at game.

SPEAKER_04

He's a striker, he's not even getting a shot a game.

SPEAKER_01

We're not creating anything at all. You're blaming for this part. You're the one slot. Slot. You're blaming slot for this. Yes.

SPEAKER_02

Of course.

SPEAKER_01

The way that we scored goals last year compared to the way that we don't create anything this year, it's completely different.

SPEAKER_02

You know, Slack said it's not the same. But it's just not the same.

SPEAKER_01

A version of the big scoring a quarter of the goals that he scored. Gakpo's got like probably two goals in the league. None of our midfielders are scoring except Subman Slack.

SPEAKER_02

It's not sustainable what Salah did last year. It's sustainable.

SPEAKER_01

In all competitions, probably did. Why are you saying 2020?

SPEAKER_04

Why do you think that Salah's not sustainable? Like he hasn't put out ridiculous output. It's gonna get harder. He's getting older, it's gonna get harder. Okay, so why is it why is his goal driving?

SPEAKER_01

It's sustainable, but now it's not.

SPEAKER_03

Eight years or nine years. Well his minutes hasn't gotten what's the word? But it hadn't at the start of the year.

SPEAKER_04

We're talking about the period at the start of the year. Oh, we're saying where there's players who should be.

SPEAKER_02

We're saying, how can Ekati K like you said do the game 18 to score his first game? Ek the guy that just came into the league fresh, right? Score goals, but then you're telling me Wertz doesn't touch the ball and wasn't.

SPEAKER_04

Eck from the same league. Was Ekatike scoring goals at a ridiculous rate? No. Ekka TK scored Ekatik scored how many goals? 10 goals in the league. 11 goals in the league. That's not a ridiculous rate. Of course not. And he's starting almost every single week. Why does why does the he's fresh in the league?

SPEAKER_02

No, but I'm just saying, why is it that he's fresh in the league? Uh, but then it goes out the window for players like Wertz, and then for for for What do you mean it goes out for Isak the window? For Issaak, you're saying, oh, he was unfit for the start, then he couldn't get a run, couldn't touch the ball. What kind of excuses he couldn't touch the ball? No one was playing in the ball. It's a system issue.

SPEAKER_04

The excuse wasn't nobody's playing the ball.

SPEAKER_02

There are two players that are the exact same. One's just a better version of the other the other guy. Somehow the other guy's getting way more touches in the game.

SPEAKER_03

Do you think it's worrying to go off Bud's point? You're saying the system issue for Issac. It's worrying. But it can't, it's not as much of a system issue for Verts for how much he gets on the ball. Verts. It cannot affect big games at all.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, my thing with Verts, I have a different I have a different issue with Verts. I think Verz from his own box to the opposition box is one of the best players at Liverpool. He's definitely one of our best performers. But I think he has a thing, it's obviously a mental thing because at at Leverkusen he had no issues with final pass, with scoring. Same with Germany. Every time he plays for Liverpool. He's got more goals and assists for Germany this year than he has for Liverpool. And he goes there every three months for international break. My thing is he it's a confidence thing or it's a mental thing that when he's playing for Liverpool, when he's in the same situations that he would score for Leverkusen or Germany, he one is not striking the ball with any conviction. Two, he's not confident in those moments or he's passing instead of shooting. And that's my issue for Verts is when we are in a big game and we need you, you cost 116 mil, like you said. For me, if I have a player that costs 116 mil, I want when it comes to a difficult game, I want what Jamal did does in the games against Atletico, what he does against Madrid, and he comes and gives me the ball, shoots. Even if he's missing, it doesn't even matter if he's not completing his actions. My thing would be I would have more I have more of a problem with Verts that he's not shooting in those actions than if he was to shoot poorly, if that makes sense. I want him to just feel like he's the guy. Like I want him to know that he has to be the guy. And maybe he can't feel like that based off the way that we're playing, him being pushed out to the left so much, him being uh him being not used the way that he was used for Germany and Leverkusen. Mind you, he got pushed to the left because he was so poor in the middle at the start of the season. I disagree. I think he was pushed, I disagree. I think he was pushed to the left because we were getting overrun in the middle, and Sabozla had to play in the middle. Yeah. And McAllister can't play somewhere else.

SPEAKER_03

You said it. Okay, cool.

SPEAKER_04

But me, but his best performances this year, Verts, all his best performances have been in the middle.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, against nobody is my point. Why can he not affect games against the big teams? One assist in the league.

SPEAKER_04

Effect games means score and assist.

SPEAKER_03

Even in games, the city game, even uh in the the Arsenal game, even in the PSG first leg. You know it's impossible.

SPEAKER_04

It's impossible for a player who's who's a furst when we signed him is very much a final third, like score goals and create goals player, right? It's impossible for a player that's not a Sabozlai type player who's who's running, who's tackling, who's affecting games in in off the ball. It's impossible. Watch any of in our last 10 games, Ekatike scored two goals. In our last 10 games, Salah scored two goals. In our last 10 games, uh Gakpo scored one goal. In our last 10 games, Isak in his last 10 games, Isak scored two goals. In in Verts' last 10 games, he scored one goal. Like it's impossible to affect the way the affect the game, the way that these players can affect the game when the players aren't being put one in the ball with in dangerous areas to affect the game. What you want Verts to do when we play against United, when we play against Chelsea, when we play against Arsenal, what you want him to do definitely relies a lot on the fact that Liverpool have the ball in the other team's half, Liverpool win the ball up high, Liverpool aren't getting caught conceding consistently, Verts isn't having to defend in at the edge of his own box as a number 10. He hasn't he shouldn't have to do that. But he does have to do it. He's not in areas where he can affect the game the way that he should affect the game because of the way that we're playing. And if you want him to score goals and But it's a contradiction to what you said earlier.

SPEAKER_03

You said he is in the areas, he just is not playing with confidence in those areas.

SPEAKER_04

I agree with what you're saying. That's against the smaller teams. He's in those areas and he's not shooting and he's not making the he's not finishing the action the way he should. But against the big teams, it's the way that we we play. The same way that Ekatike is, we can all sit here and say that he's a really good player, but the same way that he is not getting in positions enough to score goals, he's not getting in areas enough to affect the game. Gakpo not getting in enough, Salah 100% not getting in areas enough to affect the game because everyone knows what Sala can do. When Sala plays narrow, he scores or he gets assists. It has to be a coach thing.

SPEAKER_02

We've seen him get into those areas, nothing happens. That's what I think. Salah.

SPEAKER_04

You just said he has the almost goals and assists. He has 20, he has 20 GA, not in the league, apparently.

SPEAKER_02

Exactly. Yeah. Yeah, but I'm just saying.

SPEAKER_03

Chelsea, Samuel, Tom. We now get to G B Bud on Chelsea.

SPEAKER_02

What the hell is G? Whoa, whoa, whoa. What is G B? Yeah, use your imagination. If he's not gonna deflect, then yeah.

SPEAKER_03

G B.

SPEAKER_01

G B.

SPEAKER_03

The second word is bang.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and you your latest search. History might show us.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god. Samuel you want to start? Yeah. What was this? Chelsea. This is the real Chelsea crisis meeting because this is the team in the most crisis. Yeah. Of the three teams.

SPEAKER_04

Because we're when you look at Arsenal, challenge for a title three years in a row. When you look at Liverpool, we've won a title last year. And you can still look at our squad and look at certain players and be like, they might be alright. They're not bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And not only is there on-field issues, but there's also a couple little off-field issues. Players don't want to be there. HR.

SPEAKER_03

Your HR is very busy at the moment. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And they're doing a shit job. They're doing a terrible job.

SPEAKER_03

So we'll start, but the Chelsea project.

SPEAKER_02

Because I don't think it's fun when you just let me speak.

SPEAKER_04

Okay, you said that at the end of this season the project was going to be fixed. They were going to change the way that the way that they were. A matter of weeks ago. Right? Yeah, he said that. The project shut up for a second. I'm asking you. No, no, I don't want you to ask. Just let me talk. You said that the project, maybe a month ago, less than a month ago. Less than a month ago. Is going to be changed at the end of the season. It's come out already. It's going to be changed. Tell me why, Enzo Fernandez, tell me why. The module. Who was the yeah? Who was the other? There was one other player that came out and talked. Cuccarella. Cucurella. Tell me why they both stated in their things that they were frustrated about is the Chelsea module. The way that players stop saying module, I'll show you. That's what he said. The Chelsea model. Yeah. They were both frustrated in the players that they have, the lack of experience that they have, the players that the club is bringing in. They both stated their frustration in those things. So But there won't be two of your best players as well. Yeah, two of your best players. Two of your most two of your highest uh what do you call it? Ranking players, definitely, in terms of experience in terms of leadership. I don't know what you're saying. No, no, I'm talking. In terms of experience in terms of leadership, they've come out and and and claimed frustration in those in the model. Why do you think that one month ago you were certain that it was going to change? You think that if you knew it a month ago, the players should know it respectively. Probably earlier. Now they should definitely know it by now. Yeah. So why are they now still coming out with frustration towards the model that Chelsea have? And is it actually going to change or were you just lying?

SPEAKER_01

Okay. Great question. Yeah. That is a good question.

SPEAKER_02

So I'll answer the first one first. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Which was there's no deflect. No, I'm just saying. There's no deflecting this. Do you still think the module's gonna change? Right. Or were you lying? Right.

SPEAKER_02

Module. Module. When you go back to that app, I did say module or model or whatever. Whatever I said. I said, yeah, I recall that. I said that the transfer model going into next season is gonna change. Yeah. That's what I was talking about. I still feel that way. And that's off like good re like source wing uh not incomps, uh like re- resources. Sources.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, but what if you're saying that, why are you having players come out after you've said that saying we're frustrated at the model?

SPEAKER_02

Because they're talking in past tense over.

SPEAKER_01

But if they if they're in the club, they should know that it's gonna change. There would have been but they would have been given assurances within the club. Yeah. And then then they're coming out after the fact that you think they've been given assurance.

SPEAKER_02

It's more likely that they haven't been told that. I think what why these two players in particular have said that is because I feel like they're flirting with wanting to leave. So in the in their way, I think they're doing like a I'm gonna put myself in the market by saying things like that.

SPEAKER_01

We want the best for the club type thing.

SPEAKER_02

No, they were they were being honest, they were saying, nah, I'm frustrated, which is a way for clubs that are interested in this.

SPEAKER_01

They're saying, like, we want it to change, we want the best for the club, we want these things to change as players, blah blah blah. But you think that they're going, look, I'm a little bit frustrated here.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, come get me, I'm Barcelona, yeah, Madrid. Because I feel like they are kind of sick of hearing that. I think maybe the club has said what I've said because I've got it from that source, but they're probably like, nah, bullshit. They could just be like, Yeah, I don't think this is actually gonna change. They could just be like, take for example, the club we used to play for. Every season they say this is gonna change every year, right? Yeah, nothing happened. Yeah, so it's I feel like they've probably been like, nah, enough's enough. I don't think this is there's actually gonna be anything out of this. We're gonna come out and say this about whatever it is, speak truthfully. And I feel like they're talking also from a past tense of they're kind of frustrated of uh the old coach Moreska getting sacked, more as to like why did he get sacked, whereas he wasn't the problem, it's more the module of like these transfers, bringing all these youth players and not actually trying to compete for a title. They're they're they want to win within their time period of the league. Yeah. Not fucking prep it for the next generation to win it.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, my next question. Do you think the Chelsea board and ownership should be under more scrutiny? Because when Enzo had his incident at the start of the season where he was racist to the whole French team on the bus and he was promoted to vice captain, now he's speaking out against the club not signing good players and suspended for two games. Where's the where's the what's allowed and what's not allowed at the end?

SPEAKER_02

So what's the question? What's allowed, what isn't allowed? Yeah. I think that obviously the first one you mentioned wasn't just Enzo. Okay. There was a lot of plays in that. Well, is his other charge? No Chelsea. No, but I'm saying if he's gonna make a fact, it has to be all. Or Chelsea can't Chelsea can't suspend. And it wasn't just Enzo.

SPEAKER_04

Enzo was on his own live recording the video and singing the song to the camera. It wasn't it wasn't just the solo. There was other people singing it.

SPEAKER_03

Chelsea can't suspend other players. No, I'm saying, but if if you're gonna take action. I thought we said no deflection. No, it's not deflection.

SPEAKER_02

I'm saying bring all facts, just like how you said before.

SPEAKER_04

I brought facts about time.

SPEAKER_02

We only want you to talk about Chelsea. You went on a tangent about how all of this was gonna happen for this, and yeah, that was in Liverpool.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah. We only want you to talk about Chelsea.

SPEAKER_03

I said bring the whole facts.

SPEAKER_04

He's talking, he's circling around just wasting our time. Yeah, misleading the jury. All we want you to talk about is Chelsea. Was Chelsea wrong for not suspending Enzo in that time? And making him vice captain. And then making him vice captain, but then he talks, speaks out about the club, says he's open to leaving, and now gets suspended for two weeks.

SPEAKER_03

Where's the where's the is Chelsea the North Korea of the Premier League? Well said. So what's what's what are you asking me to answer? Are they the North Korea of the Premier League? Let's answer that, maybe.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, we're not a we're doing this is not that kind of podcast. I'll answer that first question. Yes. They were wrong for not suspending him then. I think they're still right for suspending him now, but they should have also suspended him back then as well. Sure. Um, I got another question. Oh, one more question. Sorry, then you go. Then I go.

SPEAKER_03

Do you think Chelsea should allow Kaiseda to play drunk anymore? Or is that not a good thing? You have energy for Zuba Bendy's performance, and you were there critiquing every everything Zuba Mendi did, he would look at me like this. Yeah, you're getting raped. Kaise though against Manchester City Cup at me. One of the worst performances of all time. Should Kaiseido be allowed to play drunk anymore? Or was that one of the worst performances you've ever seen? Wait, I'm gonna before you answer, I'm gonna call another witness to the stand. You can have a seat for a second. Samuel. Yeah, talk to me. Should Kaiseido be allowed to play drunk anymore? Was that one of the worst performances you've ever seen?

SPEAKER_04

Genuinely, I I've been on the Kaiseido uh first I was on the Kaiseido hate train questioning his ability. People were very upset at me for doing that.

SPEAKER_02

It's because you said no to your club.

SPEAKER_04

As of late, I've been on a Kaiseo is very good at at playing football. Defending, yeah. But what I saw against City, because I watched this game, you know, I've been watching a lot of games. Almost every team play lately. Not gonna sleep anymore. I what I seen from Kaiseo in this game, I beg you, if if any other top top midfielder put in that performance, there would be 15-minute comps on Twitter circling around saying this guy has just robbed Chelsea of blah blah blah amount of money. He's handed Man City the Premier League tie. Because that performance, it genuinely looked like he had had two to three bottles of whiskey before the game. That's exactly what I was gonna say. He looked awful.

SPEAKER_03

Yep.

SPEAKER_04

Can I leave the standard?

SPEAKER_03

Thanks. Back up. So the question was that Kaiseido performance inexcusable for a player of his quality? Great question.

SPEAKER_02

Listen, I think the only reason it gets highlighted like that is because we are known for him having great performances. So yes, that was a poor match from someone that we expect you know highly of. When any great player does something like that, it it gets highlighted because it's like a it's a anomaly news.

SPEAKER_03

It's breaking news. Anomaly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

You know, it's like fucking if Pizo fell down. You know, it's like some breaking. So yes, that was one of Enzo's worst performance. Oh, sorry, Kaisero's worst performance this season, I would say 100%. Freudian slip that one. Freudian slip. But I mean, I was like, look, everyone's been shit. That was icing on the cake for me, that last goal, especially.

SPEAKER_03

So I didn't even need that last goal to go in.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, yeah. Okay, cool. But thank you for that. There's nothing I want to do. You're welcome. There's nothing I want to add to. You have all this fucking energy in the world for Verts, right? Verts is this, Verts is that, Verts will be. It's actually Van Dijk. I don't really talk about Verts. He was the number one thing you wrote on that, on that book. Yeah. You have so much energy for Verts, right? Yeah. Cole Palmer played against City. Does anybody remember Cole Palmer playing? Because his performance was horrible again. And again, and again, and again. Cole Palmer, he had his best, he played his best football under Pochettino. Under Moresca, he didn't play his best football. Went quiet for a year. Yep. Yeah, went quiet for a year. He's been quiet for over a year now.

SPEAKER_02

I'd argue that.

SPEAKER_04

He's been quiet for over a year now.

SPEAKER_02

We'd need another whole hour. Definitely over a year. Over a year now.

SPEAKER_04

The second half of Moresca, up until now, Cole Palmer has been quiet. Yeah, we have so much energy for Verts. Because if Cole Palmer was to sign for anywhere anywhere, how much money would he cost? 120, 130, 140. It's my thing is he should be what you expect Verts, what you say that Verts should be. Cole Palmer should be that. So how come now Cole Palmer has just gone? He's the raider. Cole Palmer just under the raider.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, who's for one? Who said Cole Palmer slipped on the raider? His name's been mentioned.

SPEAKER_04

He may be the least mentioned on this show.

SPEAKER_02

No, he has been mentioned every week. We've talked about Chelsea's. Anytime we talk about Chelsea, I said, he does get mentioned. And I let you guys speak your truth about him.

SPEAKER_04

The one time I bring up Verts, the one time you bring up Verts, Verts is probably the most named player on this show this season. Van Dijk for me, easily. I didn't say you. I said the most named player.

SPEAKER_02

You were talking about me. I'm not talking about anyone else. You just did on this show. You said on this show. For me, you didn't let me finish. I said you were finished. For me, Verts has won by a game. I mean, I highlighted him once, and now you guys want to be like, oh, where's the energy for Kobama? It has been there every app. We talk about Chelsea. He's been there. We talk about him. You always say the same things. He's been missing. What's happening? What's he's he's you've even made videos about how he's not a world-cast player, how England shouldn't he shouldn't start, how all of this. So it's like you can't say we haven't been talking about it. I want to talk about him.

SPEAKER_04

And we brought him up just now. No, but we have talked about it. We're gonna talk about Kaiseado. And to be fair to Kaisedo, he played him awfully, but at least Kaiseado has been been alive this season, been playing, been kicking. When his team needs him, he's been there. Cole Palmer, when his team needs him, Chelsea are literally on the brink of not making Champions League and being in turmoil, club turmoil, not being able to sign players, not being able to do anything, they're in turmoil.

SPEAKER_02

If you're gonna come with facts, come with real quick facts. I said on the brink. No, on the brink. Because if you don't make it on the brink, we can't sign players. I'm saying if you don't make Champions League, no, yes, if you don't make Champions League, if we ever.

SPEAKER_04

No, no, he's not even saying that. He's saying if you don't make Champions League, financially, your club is gonna have the biggest record loss that any club's ever had in the history of football, in the history of the Premier League. Right now, you already have the biggest loss a club's ever made. And this is without this is without taking into consideration that if you don't make Champions League. Because if you make Champions League, things will be saved. And Cole Palmer is meant to be your guy. That is, as Riley says, your guy. He's meant to be the guy. Don't quote guy, she's meant to be don't come on that she's meant to be the guy Francis performing for you in these moments to bring Chelsea out of the mud.

SPEAKER_02

You know when, like deflect say, like, no, it's not a deflection. I've just realized he does this. This is one of his tactics. Is you know when you're at like target practice and you see this guy's like putting at top bins every time, and then he's like little brothers just passing onto a wall and everyone goes, Yeah, great. That's what he's doing with Riley. Like he's picking on people that aren't on to defend themselves, and he knows it's easy bait for him. That's why he does that. What's easy in Riley? He quits Riley a lot of the times. So, what do you do? All the time to I'm not deflecting. I literally said that was a statement.

SPEAKER_04

What was the question? You just went on a tangent. Is it okay for Cole Palmer to be performing the way that he's performing right now when Chelsea is on the brink of turmoil? And I've said it every week. I've never defended Palmer. Instead of Chelsea, and what does that mean to Palmer?

SPEAKER_03

I said, of course, and a follow-up question on that. As Enzo has performed his best in the number 10 this year, you would say. Esteval is your prize right winger. Yeah. Is there room for Cole Palmer? You can play with the left about to start. Great question.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I think there's definitely room for Palmer to start in the 10. I don't think Enzo has been the 10. He's been the it's it's a weird formation.

SPEAKER_03

His best, his best but they're don't when his best games have come in playing the 10. Yeah. He has Kaisado and Reese behind him, Kaiseido, Andre Santos behind the player.

SPEAKER_02

He's still playing good with the with Palmer still there. He's still playing with Palmer still there, still playing good. I just feel like, yes, there is room for Esteval and Palmer to both start. Even if one goes on the right and one goes in the middle. I still think that's gonna work.

SPEAKER_03

I just think Andro goes back?

SPEAKER_02

No, he still plays with Palmer to 10. And who's on the left? What do you mean?

SPEAKER_03

Who's on the left?

SPEAKER_02

Left wing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's what I'm saying. I'm saying if we want our best, we've got to get players.

SPEAKER_03

No, yeah, but someone else is on the left?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, Neto. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

And then who's in the six?

SPEAKER_02

Cassetto.

SPEAKER_03

And no eight. No, I'm saying Enzo is the eight. Yeah, you're saying two tens. And harmless ten. And Reese. Rapper. Rapper. I already said that. I want him in his position. Perfect. Now, guys. Some quick follow-up questions. Who has been the worst signing of the season?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. It has to be. He didn't play for the at the start of the year and then broke his leg.

SPEAKER_03

Isn't it full circle?

SPEAKER_04

We're in turmoil, realistically. And 146 million or whatever he was, 126, I don't know. I don't know. He we shouldn't be in this position. And he scored what one or two goals in the league. Yeah. Like he broke his leg. Yeah, fuck, he's had a tough, he's had a tough season. But worse signing doesn't just mean uh up to him. It's up to the club as well.

SPEAKER_02

And there's better ways to leave your old club, but the way he did it was true. True, true. And we're gonna piss off.

SPEAKER_03

And when he has played, he's been disgusted.

SPEAKER_02

There's one thing I know, you don't piss off the Geordies. They're waiting for that.

SPEAKER_04

Uh Alangar, Wissa, um Madueke. But only one can be the very worst Giocarez. I agree. That's what I'm saying. Delap. Delap. Terrible.

SPEAKER_02

Giddens. Garnacho. Giddens, he hasn't played for four months. Yeah, but Garnacho, yeah. Bad.

SPEAKER_03

Who has been the best signing in Premier history? Who has been the best signing in Premier history? Who's been the best signing this premium season?

SPEAKER_04

There's a lot.

SPEAKER_03

I need one. Shaka's been good.

SPEAKER_04

A couple of even in Sunderland United. And Buymu. Probably. Cunha.

SPEAKER_01

And Buemo is good for the first half of the year.

SPEAKER_04

But they've both been good. Many were in a way better situation than they were last year. Donor Rumer.

SPEAKER_03

Gwehi. Only one person had Donna Rumer in their top ten last year.

SPEAKER_04

He loves talking about himself.

SPEAKER_03

Gwehe, Semenu. Um, maybe I'll say Xhaka.

SPEAKER_04

Nah, guys, come on, there's better. I don't know if there is, man. There's better.

SPEAKER_01

Some of them were tipped to go down by almost everyone. Because Kruppi assigned this year. And they were fourth for probably like ten weeks. And they're comfortably in the Prem. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04

Anyone at Brentford.

SPEAKER_01

And he's their captain.

SPEAKER_04

Yeah, but there's someone. There's someone. Henderson.

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Fuck it.

SPEAKER_04

Brentford are like eighth.

SPEAKER_03

Brentford at two points. Brentford are coming for them. Yeah, Brentford like two points off Chelsea. Maybe Kellerher.

SPEAKER_04

And Henderson has been Kelleher, man.

SPEAKER_03

Nah.

SPEAKER_04

Henderson's been in charge.

SPEAKER_03

Who is the worst manager in the league right now? Just worst. Yeah, Rosenor. Slot or Rocenior. Rosena. Rocenior. It has to be Rossinho.

SPEAKER_02

I don't think it's his fault. I think he's just walked into something that he's gonna get blamed for.

SPEAKER_03

I don't think he's the worst pro keeper. Who's a worse manager than Rosenha?

SPEAKER_02

Slot. He won a league. Can't be the worst. We're talking about this season.

SPEAKER_04

He says who's the worst manager? Yeah, Slot. Or which manager's been the worst this season? Yeah. Yeah, Rosenho. Slot. Or one of the ones that got sacked.

SPEAKER_02

Rocinho's win ratio must be like 40%. Like Samuel says, Slot has single-handedly the wrecked Sala, uh, wrecked Wirtz, wrecked Van Dijk.

SPEAKER_01

You're the one that's saying Sala couldn't sustain it.

SPEAKER_02

And now all of a sudden it's slot.

SPEAKER_03

Last question, never said the word wrecked. Last question. Will Tottenham go down this season? Yes. I think they will. Do you know why we got believing that guy's going to stay up here? West Ham are on a heater, man.

SPEAKER_02

Two wins, that's it. Why do you keep believing that they're gonna be able to do that?

SPEAKER_03

Where are those two wins coming? They haven't won a game. This whole year this week. Tottenham could Bryden will slap Deserby in his face for big.

SPEAKER_04

Wait, you know that you know that Tottenham have two home wins in the whole season and they have no wins at all in Tottenham.

SPEAKER_03

You know PSG have more home wins against Prem teams than Tottenham do in the last year.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but I I think I think they didn't. I don't know why you have belief that they're good. That they're good enough to be able to do that.

SPEAKER_04

Romero just did his ACL.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. We're not gonna sit here and believe that. Was it ACL? No, no, no, no, no.

SPEAKER_04

It was bad. He's out for the season. He's done. Nah, he's gonna play in the World Cup.

SPEAKER_02

It's not ACL, it's but he's done for the year. I reckon he said that.

SPEAKER_04

It's his ligament. It's needs like if he's on the market, I think it's like a six to eight week interviews.

SPEAKER_01

He's gonna play in the world cup. And the World Cup's eight weeks. But he's not playing for Tottenham again. But now what do they do? If he's in the market.

SPEAKER_04

Oh, Katika's out of the World Cup, so sad.

SPEAKER_02

You know that guilty buy you guys everyone has? Mine's Cootie, I'd bring Chelsea straight away. Yeah, he'll go after Chelsea. I'd bring any. I'd do this as well. I'll do this to Cootie when he walks out. He's not gonna go to you. You know he's going Simeoni, yeah. He's not going to you. Yeah, he'll go after the team.

SPEAKER_03

He'd look good in that team as well for him. Yeah. Fucking he'd guys, if you made it this far, excellent. Comment down below where Arsenal are going to be come next Monday. Are Tottenham gonna be relegated? Are Chelsea done for in the Big Six? Didn't we say that Chelsea, remember? If they have one more bad season, they they're getting cut off from Big Six. Tottenham should be cut off from Big Six. Totten's Tottenham are cut off. We get to trade for one more season. If you get relegated, you're cut out. And comment who should be kicked out of the big six. And let them shoot. And let them shoot.

SPEAKER_02

FML.